4th charged in July armed robbery

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By Jean Lotus

Forest Park Review Editor

At a county jail in Jonesborough, Illinois, Oak Park police took into custody and charged Thursday the fourth suspect in the July 14 mid-day armed robbery in the 200 block of Clinton Ave.

Police took into custody Montreal L. Carr, 19, who also used aliases Venture Robinson and Kendel William. Carr, of the 1200 block of Fairfield Avenue in Chicago, was charged with armed robbery with a firearm. Demarko Johnson-Molette, 21, Devontay Chambers, 22 and Joshua Murphy, 21, all of Chicago were charged earlier.

During the robbery, one of the men held an Oak Park man at gunpoint in his backyard as the others used his ATM card at 7 Eleven and Tasty Dog in Oak Park. Police Chief Rick Tanksley called the crime "brazen." Surveillance video helped identify the getaway vehicle, police said. 

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Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: September 3rd, 2014 2:16 PM

@ Joe ROTC required shooting qualification at Purdue half a century ago

joe from south oak park  

Posted: September 3rd, 2014 12:27 PM

According to the NCAA, there are over thirty colleges that offer rifle teams. Many of the division I schools offer scholarships!

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 25th, 2014 12:11 PM

@ Uncommon - I don't want to be known as "quick draw" thank you! Just one more report that proves good people with guns is not a bad thing.

Uncommon Sense  

Posted: August 25th, 2014 10:05 AM

Ray, beat me to it. Of course, I don't expect the gun grabbers to acknowledge reality.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 25th, 2014 8:58 AM

Interesting information http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/

In Glen Ellyn formerly from OP  

Posted: August 25th, 2014 7:42 AM

It seems to me that CCW gun owners would come from the existing pool of handgun owners, not non-handgun owners, and would be inherently more trained and be more responsible to handle the operation and consequences of concealing and unconcealing (bringing it out for use, under extreme situation and desperation). Of course, I do like the surprise aspect to keep the thugs guessing and studies/realities show the thugs prefer easy targets. Thugs are bullies and typically fear resistence. CCW ftw.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 25th, 2014 7:33 AM

Sorry for the confused sentence - should read - - -"Keep in mind that these are target shooting examples and none of us ( Cops included) know how an adrenaline overload will affect us." Guess I need to get my 6 year old grand daughter to refresh my cut and paste skills!

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 25th, 2014 7:26 AM

@ JohnQ More precisely that girl can outshoot the majority of military snipers - and did! Keep in mind that these are target shooting examples and none of usshooting sports that want ( Cops included) know how an adrenaline overload will affect us. I know of no participant in shooting sports who want to be anywhere near a "cowboy" and our range safety record, in the US, is excellent. The National Matches, in Ohio celebrated their 100th anniversary recently. 3/4 of a million shooters, all with potentially lethal weapons and boxes of ammunition and not a single shooting accident that I know of. This is a group that you should welcome into your community.

RF Dan  

Posted: August 25th, 2014 7:14 AM

John Q - You can rspond to me using terms such as cowardly manner and school girl cries but that does not change your ridiculous arguments. "Give me C. Bronson wannebe until the police get there" is a good example. And of course quoting Mr. Simpson is just like pulling out the bible...who can outshoot whom is not pertinent to any thoughtful argument.

John Q  

Posted: August 25th, 2014 2:23 AM

...using marksmanship as an argument then you are apparently not interested in what I have stated, what I have observed with my own eyes and what I have lived. My comments about marksmanship came in response to your school girl cries to let the police do their job i.e. avoid CCW. I thought it was a ridiculous excuse and many police officers have espoused that. Ray Simpson just told us a high school girl from Oregon can out shoot the average cop with a rifle and you think I'm pushing gimmicks.

John Q  

Posted: August 25th, 2014 2:18 AM

RF Dan, it is clear that your objective is to play devil's advocate and question everything in a cowardly manner but add little to the conversation. If you re-read my comment you'll notice I never asserted a handgun would have changed the outcome. I clearly stated "it may have" ended the standoff not that it would have. You on the other hand are as foolish as you thought I was to imply that them having a firearm would not have made a difference. We do not know either way. If you think I am...

Brian Slowiak from Westchester  

Posted: August 25th, 2014 12:24 AM

2 GE: Sorry, suffering the effects of working outside today in the heat and the humidity. I am a little slow. No need for the M-16, the hand gun worked just fine. One shot, one hit.

Brian Slowiak from Westchester  

Posted: August 25th, 2014 12:19 AM

@GE: What?

In Glen Ellyn formerly from OP  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 9:46 PM

Brian- the mob scene use sounds like an argument for automatic assault guns with extra large capacity magazines. Where's the petition for me to sign!?

In Glen Ellyn formerly from OP  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 9:42 PM

Ray- so it's restricting CC in OP that's under consideration? I appreciate your argument to allow CC and agree with it. Seems like a no-brainer once the handgun ban was canned. I agree the stricter rules for CC people will make criminals less bold. Surprise!

Brian Slowiak from Westchester  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 9:40 PM

2 GE: You forget about Charles Silvernail Smith. He was the young American Indian lad who was chased through the streets of OP by a white mob. Cornered, he used a handgun to defend himself.used his handgun to kill his white attacker .Some six months after the handgun ban was passed, and was never charged w/possession of a handgun. Nobody knows why he wasn't charged. I have the case file.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 8:28 PM

@ Glenn - I agree that people who seek power don't need firepower. The value of concealed carry is that the bad guys have no idea of who is armed and who is not. If a ban is in place they can be pretty sure no one is going to resist. The police officers I know are damn cautious about safety and they try to be good citizens - they are our neighbors. I have little fear of the concealed carry permit holder, the slug who is packing with out license scares the hell out of me. When I was actively competing, on a pistol team, I would see tough guys at the public ranges. The safest place to be was in front of the target because any hit was an accident.

In Glen Ellyn formerly from OP  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 7:48 PM

Ray- as oblivious as I was in my little personal world at that time I did mentally cheer him on for resisting an opportunistic thug regardless of the ban. I admit being hypocritical when it comes to personal handguns. I dun' like 'em in the hands of bullies, or would be bullies, which happens to include some cops, including a former friend I knew since high school and the reason I moved out of OP, but when they're used to stop violence, my temporarily arrhythmical "bleeding heart" safely resets.

RF Dan  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 7:15 PM

John Q - nice personal story but not pertinent to your argument. You have no idea of the outcome if one of the ladies had a handgun. Could have jusy as easily been a bloodbath, you can asume any outcome you wish but you just loose your street cred. Marksmanship? Seriously, that is your argument...

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 5:54 PM

@ Glen - He had the same constitutional rights in 1980 as today. The village just acted illegally by denying that right. 1980 would have been the beginning of the handgun ban and should have been fought to the SCOTUS. A right then is a right now. We have asked how the village should compensate individuals who had their guns confiscated and disposed of in violation of their constitutional rights. We are waiting for a response. Not holding our breath.

In Glen Ellyn formerly from OP  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 5:29 PM

Now, Ray, why'd ya have to spoil an argument with reality? Seriously, though, what did I miss about the gun issue in Oak Park? The state law changed to account for bans being found unconstitution in 2010 and Chicago and Oak Park shortly after became the final hold-outs to effectively remove their hand-gun bans, right? What's the controversy over now? I vaguely remember the sht the Harrison/Austin gas station got in the early 80s for thwarting a robbery illegally with a handgun. Legal now,though.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 4:13 PM

@ John Q - You might find it amusing that our national 1,000 yard rifle champion is a high school girl from Oregon. Annie Oakley is smiling down on her - I bet!

John Q  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 3:57 PM

I spent part of my youth in the south and I grew up around guns, taught to respect them and not think of them as toys. We didn't have water squirters or anything resembling a gun to play with. As a boy I was told if someone comes into this house and I'm not home, you are the man of the house. This is where the gun is. This is how you fire it. I have never shot anyone. I have never tried to be the police and jump in situations I should have avoided. But as a man safety in my house is my job.

John Q  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 3:52 PM

often among the younger guys and they came from Alabama, Mississippi, West Virginia etc. One of them was 17 but he could shoot and shoot well. The military just made him better. As Ray alludes to, there is this myth of the superior marksmanship of police officers. On average you are likely to find teenagers in the south with more firearms experience than a police officer in the north. Your whole let the cops do their job comment is clearly detached from the fact cops overhwelmingly promote ccw.

John Q  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 3:48 PM

RF Dan, "that's the best example you have?"..you really come off as close minded on the issue. I actually was referring to the fact if one of those women had a handgun on them it may have stopped early on. I'm going to go on a limb and assume you have never served in the military and if so you probably didn't serve in a land force. As Ray Simpson notes, my firearms training came from the military. Despite the weeks and hours of rolling around with rifles, the undisputed chief marksmen were...

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 11:01 AM

@ Glenn - All Illinois residents are protected Here is a good explanation of the law http://www.illinoislegalaid.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.dsp_content&contentID=8357

In Glen Ellyn formerly from OP  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 10:31 AM

Is OP supported by the "stand your ground" laws, or protect your castle rights to deadly force?

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 8:27 AM

There are several states where concealed carry has been the law for a decade or more. Not one of those states have reported any increase in violent crime. Not one of those states have amended their laws to favor the regulation cabal. My shooting experience has been that those who bothered to get qualified for concealed carry were far better marksmen than the majority of street cops. I am sure that if you search hard enough you will discover an aberration.

RF Dan  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 7:50 AM

John Q- that's the best example you have? and if you were there you would have obviously shot the bad guys with 8 safe hostages? Keep dreaming and let the police do what they are best at.

Judi from Chicago  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 7:41 AM

People: Please be alert at all times, and if you must be strapped, then do it in and around your home. There is no excuse for this, and I am happy, that they are not going to hurt anyone, for some years! Was it worth it thugs? You cannot cry racism, when YOU are your own worst enemy. Make a job! Stop having babies,and wanting US to support you! Stop killing each other! Respect yourself and others! Behave! A hard head, makes a soft behind. THINK!

John Q  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 2:56 AM

bodies, while holding the children in front of them, as human shields. The point is you have no idea what is going through the brain of the person brazen and audacious enough to hold a gun to your head. Maybe they will kill you or maybe they won't. Give me the Charles Bronson wannabe until the police get there. Mose from OP: Plea bargaining is about money. Period. Guilty pleas without the costs and workload of trial and a shorter stay at overcrowded and understaffed state facilities.

John Q  

Posted: August 24th, 2014 2:50 AM

RF Dan. two women and six children were held hostage for 20 hours plus in Harvey the other day...waiting for trained law enforcement to save them. 2 members of the trained law enforcement were shot during the early attempts to stop these lowlifes. During the 20 hours waiting for trained law enforcement one of the women was sexually assaulted several times, the children heard threats of getting their heads blown off and the morons consired to sneak out the house with the women tied to their...

Mose from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 10:44 PM

I've read that plea bargaining is an effective and cost saving procedure but sure if there is actual benefit to society by allowing criminals to plead to lessor offenses and be required to serve only a portion of the full sentence. Violent crime is too often found to have been committed by repeat offenders. Police are trying to keep our communities safe but their efforts are stymied and the safety of citizens is jeopardized when judges and prosecutors provided prisoners with a revolving door.

RF Dan  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 10:27 PM

"Who" stated very simply that he would prefer thugs to be caught by trained law enforement versus possibly shot by charles bronsun wanna be's. "Who" does not need any NRA stats to make this statement.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 9:32 PM

@ Who and how many concealed carry examples can you testify to? You have little or no knowledge of what you speak and it shows. Remember these thugs were armed and dangerous. They also knew the percentages of people in Oak Park who might give them grief was very low.

Who  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 8:27 PM

Now personally i think this outcome is a better outcome than if they all had been shot dead by a conceal and carry person. Just My 2 cents.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 6:24 PM

@ OakParkr - Lets look at the economics of putting them away. DOJ statistics report that people who commit crimes with guns, average one incident every eighteen days or 20 per year. If we keep them out of circulation for ten years - that is 200 robberies that didn't happen. 200 police calls and reports that didn't happen. 200 court costs that didn't happen and untold numbers of lives that were not disrupted. Those totals make the cost of prison less of a problem. It would be nice if thugs and felons didn't exist but that is just do gooder pipe dreams.

OPRFHS@gmail.com from Oak Park  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 5:16 PM

I am sorry for the mispelling. I am a product of public schools. I meant convict and rob.

OakPrkr from Oak Park  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 5:14 PM

Ha! Gotcha, I knew you would fall for the race bait. I am extremely glad these four are caught. Unfortunately we do have to spend money on coonvicting and incarcerating them. Only to be out in a few years. I could care less about their upbringing. They had no business pointing a gun at anyone. Urban Terrorist. Steal an apple to survive, I can understand that. Rib someone, no mercy. Sorry to get you going Ray. You're a good man.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 5:06 PM

@ OakPrkr - how about your speaking for their freedom and you assume all legal and financial responsibility for what they do? They rob a bank - you go to jail. They assault someone - you stand with them in the dock. I bet your progressive ideology stops way short of any personal discomfort to you.

Jackson  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 4:49 PM

"Montreal, Devontay, Demarko and "Joshua"? Are all misguided youths. The racists are out in force." Yes, and I'm sure the calm talking to you'd give these "misguided youths" would set them on the straight and narrow. Maybe instead of jail, you could get them to "promise" not to misguidedly stick a gun in a fathers face and terrorize his family. Oh these poor urban terrorists are the actual victims, having no free will to not hold a family hostage at gun point.

In Glen Ellyn formerly from OP  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 3:05 PM

on back, "Wait! I just have a couple questions."

In Glen Ellyn formerly from OP  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 3:04 PM

I'd wear this shirt... on front a pair of arms raised up with caption, "HANDS UP...!"

In Glen Ellyn formerly from OP  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 3:01 PM

Would it be racist to declare I don't want to pay for incarcerations? I mean, I'm not made of money (despite what the muggers think).

OakPrkr from Oak Park  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 2:45 PM

Montreal, Devontay, Demarko and "Joshua"? Are all misguided youths. The racists are out in force.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 2:28 PM

@ Grumpy - there is a way! Get the 2 Oak Park papers to run a scoreboard of judges and prosecuters who let bad guys skate and then a pre election tally sheet ( Just the right size to carry into the voting booth.) They must get re elected and a little sunshine strikes fear into their hearts. They do care more about their coo-shy jobs than some jerk who would steal the court reporters purse.

Grumpy from OP  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 2:13 PM

Ray, I agree except aren't we at the mercy of the Cook County court system? That means Dem judges, often with lefty sensibilities & "compassion" for the accused. There must be a way for our police & community to demand max sentences. Also, can these 4 also be charged with a hate crime and/or federal civil rights violations? There was a bank theft involved. Just thinking of all the ways these cretins can be kept away from the rest of us.

Jackson  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 1:44 PM

"HANDS UP, DON'T SHOOT"! Oh wait, is the victim allowed to say that if he and his family are white?

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 1:35 PM

@ Mose - you just earned a place on my crusade to make Oak Park the last place on earth for thugs to do crime. Let the world know that we are intolerant of armed violence or felony and that this hand wringing progressive community can and will exact "tough love" I would like to see our convicted thugs rented out to Siberian work camps where they can bust butt to survive.

Mose from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 12:25 PM

Now it's up to the criminal justice to make sure these criminals receive lengthy sentences that will effectively keep them isolated away from society. No plea bargains, please. Max terms and no early release.

Jackson  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 11:07 AM

He was a good boy heading to great things that just made a mistake. An honor student, and it's all societies fault that? Oh wait, that's wrong, he's a violent criminal that deserves to be put in a cage.

Mom  

Posted: August 23rd, 2014 1:09 AM

Fantastic News. I am so excited and woukd like to commend the OPPD. Job well done boys.

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