Shrubtown August 22, 2018

Opinion: Shrubtown

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By Marc Stopeck

Answer Book Editor/ Editorial Cartoonist / Weekly Sales Representative


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Bruce Kline  

Posted: September 9th, 2018 12:28 PM

Ray and Ramona. I agree with you that our Oak Park police are exemplary. I suspect most of my friends and neighbors would also agree. But Ramona we are talking about perception and not facts. Your statistics from the Washington Post proves a fundamental truism: that often there is a disparity between truth (facts) and perception. Reality is the first casualty of our "Twitter/Facebook" 24/7 "news cycle". Perception fills in. Mr. Stopek's cartoon is referring to perception (of police ? and not necessarily local). It says so right on the cartoon: "differing perception of police." I suspect there might be a grain of truth regarding the perception of the police by some of our black citizens. Certainly if not in Oak Park, then in the city ... or country, no doubt. But until Ray and you brought up the issue, I just took the cartoon for what I thought it was about: perception and how the same reality can yield two diametrically apposed perceptions. And yes Ray, sometimes those perceptions are shaped by one's racial or religious heritage. Call it what you will Ray, sad but it's true. If on the other hand the cartoon was meant to impugn or indict specifically the integrity and professionalism of our Oak Park policemen and women (which I do not think it was) then I would agree: that is a low blow, totally undeserved. Anyway, if an editorial cartoon did not promote controversy (leading to discussion), then what's the point? An editorial cartoonist drawing pablum will shortly be out of a job.

Alice Wellington  

Posted: September 9th, 2018 11:02 AM

""According to the Justice Department, blacks die of homicide at six times the rate of whites and Hispanics combined. That's because blacks commit homicide at eight times the rate of whites and Hispanics combined ? In the 75 largest counties of the United States, which is where most of the population resides, blacks commit over 50 percent of all violent crime, though they're 15 percent of the population in those counties," she said. "These crime disparities are repeated in every big American city. Here in New York, blacks commit 75 percent of all shootings, though they're 23 percent of the population. How do we know that? That's what the victims of and witnesses to those shootings, who are overwhelmingly minority themselves, tell the police.""

Kline Maureen  

Posted: September 9th, 2018 10:03 AM

my thoughts, particularly in response to Ramona's comment. First, as stated in the heading, the cartoon is about perception, which may be different from reality. To me, that's an important distinction. Second, it does not specify that it refers to the Oak Park Police Department. I take it as a more general look at perceptions of police across the country. Third, your raw numbers are misleading - 458 white vs 223 blacks when the overall U.S. population is abut 66% white and 15% black means that on a percentage basis, blacks are far more likely to be the target in a police-involved shooting. (this link has detailed demographic data:

Ramona Lopez  

Posted: September 8th, 2018 10:31 PM

I guess I shouldn't find it hard to believe that Mr. Haley is ok with this being published. We have OUTSTANDING police in Oak Park and an extremely diverse force. I wonder if he is willing to hang the original at the Oak Park police station. Please look at the Washington Post, they track all police shootings. Here are a few stats Mr. Stopeck may find interesting. 1. in 2017 458 white people vs 223 black people were killed by police. I have literally NEVER heard of any white person being shot by police on mainstream media. Evidently, all the shootings of white people are justified and its simply a non story. 2. 31 unarmed white people were shot by police in 2017 vs. 20 black. Most of America can probably name all the unarmed black men off the top of their heads. 3. In the last 2 years 86 people have been shot by police brandishing toy or bb guns. Of those 86, 50 were white men. Yet, everyone in America knows who Tamir Rice is. Mr. Stopeck is nothing but a schil for the far left deceptive narrative who wants to continue to brainwash the American citizenry. Personally, I find his humor unnerving, deceptive and a gross misrepresentation of our local police force.

Ray Simpson  

Posted: September 8th, 2018 7:40 PM

If you believe this cartoon you are a racist. Satire demands a thread of truth - this attempt at humor falls flat and is disrespectful of our police department. Shame on you!

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