It's past time for more effective gun regulation

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I agree with all of these gun safety policy recommendations [Who is responsible? Ken Trainor, Viewpoints, Aug. 7]. The situation is beyond urgent. It's past dire. It's just too easy for raging, crazed individuals (who all seem to be men) to get their hands on these weapons legally. Unless we get controls in place, every single one of us will eventually witness directly, know a victim from, or even be shot ourselves in, one of these outrageous outbursts of gun violence. 

It's feeding on itself, as well as on Trump's rhetoric.

Rich Kordesh

Chicago

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Brian Slowiak  

Posted: August 23rd, 2019 12:54 PM

@ Bill Dwyer: If a motto is written, that doesn't make the motto true or in true practice. If a past Chief of police makes that statement it doesn't make that statement true or in true practice.. If you car is parked in Oak Park and stolen you can not file a civil suit against the police for the loss, because the police did not protect your property. If you are the victim of a battery you can not file a civil against the police for your injuries. Police Chief Joe Menderick once stated there were no gang members either living in or in Oak Park. I am sure he wished he never made that statement. As line officers would say, the chief of police goes down with the ship, the life boats are the sole property of the line officers. While I didn't say it, as the statement in quotes suggests, I will stand by your statement and that the citizen is indeed on there own as to their safety and their property. The question in hand will be settled in the Florida School Resource Officer who failed to enter the school where an active shooting was in progress. A citizen can not afford or expect a public police officer to risk their life for yours. this is bwhere valor enters the picture. The Secret service is the only police agency where they will take a bullet to protect the president. BTW, I floated the idea of the motto of the OPPD to be "Justice in a free society" and/or "The bright blue burning flame of criminal justice"

Brian Slowiak  

Posted: August 23rd, 2019 12:29 PM

@ Michael Omalley: The Japanese did invade the Aluetins Island chain off of Alaska, with the possible intent of invading Canada and possibly the U.S.

Michael O'Malley  

Posted: August 23rd, 2019 11:51 AM

Ms. Fazio Seuffert, It wasn't an apocryphal quote, spread by the NRA, that prevented a Japanese invasion. The Japanese didn't invade the US because they couldn't. Any reputable historian will tell you that the logistics would have been impossible.

William Dwyer Jr.  

Posted: August 23rd, 2019 9:15 AM

And Bryan, you seem confused. The motto of the Chicago Police Department and many other departments is "We serve and protect" (or some variation) not, as you suggest, "You're on your own." ..The head of your former police department says his officers are explicitly tasked with "maintaining and improving peace, order and safety ..."

William Dwyer Jr.  

Posted: August 23rd, 2019 8:54 AM

I missed nothing, RL. To anyone who cares to acknowledge simple reality, it's this: until we ban weapons that can fire multiple rounds per second, at velocities THREE TIMES that of normal weapons (with much greater damage), and with extended clips and cylinders that allow killers to fire for longer periods without reloading- until we address that, people, including children, are going to continue to die in mass slaughters, no matter how many other people are carrying weapons.

Virginia Fazio Seuffert from Oak Park  

Posted: August 23rd, 2019 8:42 AM

@Brian Slowiak. I agree that guns can be used for personal safety, to protect private property, or for hunting.. But the original purpose of the 2nd Amendment was more narrow. A Japanese general (maybe Yamamoto) famously explained why Japan did not invaded the Western States. ".We knew that probably every second home in your country contained firearms. We knew that your country actually had state championships for private citizens shooting military rifles. We were not fools to set foot in such quicksand."

Brian Slowiak  

Posted: August 23rd, 2019 8:22 AM

@ Virginia Fazio Seuffert: Can tyranny only be distributed by a government? Can tyranny be distributed by say a gang or an average citizen? Plus by past legal precedent the public police are not responsible for the protection of yourself or property. You the private citizen are the sole person responsible for the protection or yourself or property.

Ramona Lopez  

Posted: August 22nd, 2019 10:50 PM

@ Mr. Dwyer. You made 2 points with your post. 1. regarding the destructive capability of a military grade weapon and 2. " fools who believe "the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."". Clearly, my comment was towards number #2. Can you please explain to the good people of Oak Park how you missed that?

William Dwyer Jr.  

Posted: August 22nd, 2019 10:32 PM

Sure. Yes, Ms. Lopez. If I point out that someone with a military grade weapon can shoot 36 people in 32 second, that must, in your mind at least, apparently, mean I'd prefer "the good guys never show up." And, some day, maybe, you can explain to people on this website how you came to that conclusion.

Ramona Lopez  

Posted: August 22nd, 2019 8:52 PM

Mr. Dwyer...and if there was no good guy with a gun, then how much longer could he have been shooting? Would you prefer a good guy with a gun NEVER show up?

Virginia Fazio Seuffert from Oak Park  

Posted: August 22nd, 2019 4:19 PM

People really need to learn history. The 2nd Amendment was not intended for hunting, or even protecting our homes. The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to stop tyranny.

William Dwyer Jr.  

Posted: August 22nd, 2019 3:58 PM

Here's the real problem- fools who believe "the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." The good guys killed the the bad guy just 32 seconds after he starting shooting people in Dayton- 32 seconds- and in those 32 seconds he killed 9 people and wounded another 27- more than one victim a second. And he was able to do this because he had a military assault weapon with a 100 round cylinder.

Ramona Lopez  

Posted: August 22nd, 2019 3:26 PM

Who was Mr. Kordesh blaming while Mr. Obama was president. We can't even keep drugs out of prisons, what makes you think we keep guns out of the hands of bad or crazy people? I'm sure Mr. Kordesh wouldn't even consider criticizing Kim Foxx and her practices.

Ray Simpson  

Posted: August 22nd, 2019 7:28 AM

See the John Kass column today He highlights the real problem right next door https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/john-kass/ct-cook-county-bail-debate-kass-20190822-bgyzwfjfwne5fnqciomoobwf5i-story.html?fbclid=IwAR22J5HoptCZ40M3qHmVWO7sIhYBlRQWg6uaxjT7UlV5WoqxqvDKIlmwP5k

Ray Simpson  

Posted: August 21st, 2019 2:36 PM

and yet 1 mile east of here we have a problem 100's of times greater and NONE of those guns are obtained legally. Lets get our priorities straight and go after illegal thugs who are prohibited from possessing firearms! Those laws are in place. The homicidal maniacs are mentally ill and are more of a medical issue than a legal one. They have privacy issues that protect them from legal intervention. Interesting question - if we catch an illegal alien with a contraband gun, do we turn him loose - since we are a sanctuary city? Just wondering.

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