Journal, your biases are showing

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When it comes to the Oak Park Regional Housing Center, Wednesday Journal's reporting is slanted. They reported on the Oct. 28 Finance Committee meeting, and I quote: "Most commenters defended the necessity of funding OPRHC and integrated housing, while a few advocated that the center had fulfilled its purpose in maintaining an integrated Oak Park and has become obsolete in recent years." [Housing Center's 2019 funding reinstated, News, Nov. 6].

What WJ readers don't know, however, is that, conveniently enough, the Journal did not choose to report on the Oct. 24 Finance Committee meeting where two-thirds of the commenters strongly advocated for no funding for the Housing Center in 2020. The other third spoke on unrelated topics. In other words 100 percent of those who spoke about the Housing Center were in favor of no funding in 2020. If you're going to cover the news, cover all the news, not just the items that support your personal views. Dan Haley, your biases are showing. In the recent words of our former President Barack Obama, "C'mon!"

Corey Gimbel

Oak Park

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William Dwyer Jr.  

Posted: November 23rd, 2019 9:17 AM

All those who are interested in a good overview of the state of local journalism nowadays, including that of the parent paper of the Oak Leaves, are advised to read this informative article in the Washington Post.

Tommy McCoy  

Posted: November 15th, 2019 11:23 PM

William Dwyer Jr. That was a very nice and informative reply and I will take it that you can not buy an Oak Leave's any longer like you can a Wednesday Journal. I like receiving the paper and also of course the online news stories since they are out a lot sooner. If you are still writing for news outlets, mention it so I can check some of your stories

William Dwyer Jr.  

Posted: November 15th, 2019 6:59 PM

Oh, gee, sorry, McCoy. I just assumed it was OK to suggest someone "must be new to media" after you replied to Tom McMillan in exactly that fashion because he disagreed with you. As for your implied compliment, well, thanks. But it has to be stated that I reported for the WJ- as well as the Oak Leaves later- at a time when they were merely struggling financially, and not, as is currently the case, hanging on by their fingernails. The reason the Journal doesn't cover the many and varied events in OP and RF as they did I the past is rather simple- they have, out of neccesity, trimmed staff to the bare minimum. And yet they continue to produce quality and even award winning journalism. That's to their credit. THAT's what I'm defending, not any particular set of opinions.

Tommy McCoy  

Posted: November 15th, 2019 11:07 AM

Dwy, why do I not notice it anywhere in paper form. After you get done with insulting me, let me know where I can find it, I prefer the Wednesday Journal for real home town stories although I am hoping that the Wednesday Journal will get back to taking up more issues and less fluff with some stories. More of the way you use to write for the Wednesday Journal. Please be kind with the words you select to abuse me with today. I am trying to keep a more positive attitude, so be gentle if you can

William Dwyer Jr.  

Posted: November 15th, 2019 10:42 AM

You must be the one who's new to media, Tommy Mc. The Oak Leaves is in fact very much still "around."

Tommy McCoy  

Posted: November 14th, 2019 11:14 PM

Tom MacMillan You must be new to media. All media is going to favor a certain way. I was told by a very smart man, to always read to opposing papers and form your own opinion. It would be nice to still have the Oak Leave's around, although the Wednesday Journal has been the favorite, regardless if I agree or disagree at time's with opinion's. The nice part about the Wednesday Journal, is they have no intention to make a limited amount of views until you pay. To me, that is a very nice way to run a source of information for the public, and if you do not want to subscribe to the Wednesday Journal or donate, you can still make comments. I would like more reporting, and I think that is starting to take off again and hope that the Wednesday Journal will ask more questions out of Village Hall as they continue moving forward

Tom MacMillan from Oak Park  

Posted: November 14th, 2019 7:35 PM

I was at both meetings. It is simply not true that "most commenters" defended the OPRHC. There was a mix of opinions. At the same time, so what if most commenters did prefer one action or another? We vote for Trustees to represent us. Not random people wandering into the peanut gallery at meetings. The trustee's decisions should not be impacted by a handful of people showing up at a meeting commenting. The idea of packing a room with a couple dozen loud people should not be a strategy. And, the Wednesday Journal is and always has displayed a very strong bias on issues, which makes their funding being tax deductible amazing, unless you think giving to a political party should be tax deductible too.

Corey Gimbel from Oak Park  

Posted: November 14th, 2019 3:22 PM

H'mmmm well Billy Boy you're the mind-reader whatta you think? A man of your intellectual prowess should be able to tell when he's being dissed. Must I explain everything to you? I could use shorter words I suppose.

William Dwyer Jr.  

Posted: November 14th, 2019 1:51 PM

So, was that last one another attempt at humor, or a straight up insult," Gumble?

Corey Gimbel from Oak Park  

Posted: November 14th, 2019 4:27 AM

@ Mindreader - I guess your superpower is failing you. Better reboot it. When I said compliment I was being a bit snarky, perhaps even sarcastic. It wasn't really a compliment. leave it to you to miss the humor and take the opportunity, as you always seem to, to belabor the obvious. Has anyone told you, lately, that you're a PITA?

Tommy McCoy  

Posted: November 13th, 2019 7:33 PM

" I really am enjoying the Wednesday Journal, and I like their new approach and think it will be successful" I did not write anything about being slanted or not covering stories

William Dwyer Jr.  

Posted: November 13th, 2019 6:49 PM

At McCoy: Since I don't mind a fair and accurate correction, Bruce Kline's thoughtful points didn't "hit me," either hard or softly. My points stand, including the fact that whenever there's a final decision to be made, it will only be made by the members of the village board. As for Gimbel, setting aside your silly contention that "bloviator" is a compliment, the fact is I'm jumping to the defense of journalism, particularly from specious criticism by people like you who argue that the WJ or any other newspaper's coverage is "slanted" or the publisher "biased" simply because they didn't cover one of dozens of committee meetings.

Tommy McCoy  

Posted: November 12th, 2019 10:45 PM

William Dwyer Jr. You do like to give it out to others and take defense of others, and I do recall Corey Gimbel being apologetic when he has been wrong, and it would be nice if you could do the same. I know Bruce Kline hit you rather hard with facts, and you may not like that, although you know in the business of news, facts are facts. Just be more kind to people before everyone starts knowing that you are not commenting to make things better for the online community. I really am enjoying the Wednesday Journal, and I like their new approach and think it will be successful

Corey Gimbel from Oak Park  

Posted: November 12th, 2019 9:54 PM

#William "Mindreader" Dwyer. It would have been a safe bet that you'd leap to your former (or am I misremembering that?) employer's defense. That said..... Try this on. Since I don't know you, and wouldn't recognize you if I saw you, how is it that you know ME well enough to read my mind and then, arrogantly I might add, interpret my thoughts. For the record, yet again, I expected the Mayor and Trustees to grant the extension(and I agree with that choice) to allow the OPRHC time, once again, to deliver the, contractually agreed upon, reports and audit late. They made the politically appropriate decision and arrived at it unanimously. Now all the OPRHC has to do is get those reports handed over to get the $$$ they need to pay their staff. Speaking of casting aspersions, and bloviating in general, Mr Dwyer, I think you do a pretty good job of it yourself. That's a compliment btw. Now bloviate away...

Kline Maureen  

Posted: November 12th, 2019 8:03 PM

I encourage everyone to watch the video in The following link of the Oct 24 Finance Committee meeting to hear the public comments about this issue - Thank you Bridgett.

Bruce Kline  

Posted: November 12th, 2019 7:14 PM

Bill: Thank you for pointing out a fact many of us - including me - fail to consider when criticizing newspapers such as the WJ. As you point out, newspapers no longer have the resources to report on every community meeting that comes down the pike. So therefore IMO, it becomes even more important for citizens to go to these meetings and "see for themselves." In that spirit I can safely tell you that here was no village board meeting "where the final decision was made." At least not in regard to the topic to which Mr. Gimbel was referring: the 2020 HC budget and the Villages' contribution to that budget. Having personally attended both financial committee meetings in October as well as the November 4 Village Board meeting I can say unequivocally that the the only decision related to this issue was when, on November 4th, the Village Trustees unanimously approved Village funding of the HC for the rest of 2019 i.e. that is November and December. That's it. No decision was reached in regard to the Housing Center's 2020 budget and how much - if any - the Village should contribute. So it would be impossible for Mr. Gimbel to be at a Village Board meeting - determining that HC 2020 budget to which he referred - when in fact that meeting has yet to occur. That meeting however, is no doubt coming up in the near future. And I and a whole lot of other folks - likely including Mr. Gimbel - will be there to express our strongly held views either pro or con. That I can assure you.

William Dwyer Jr.  

Posted: November 12th, 2019 1:30 PM

Once again someone who doesn't like the decision of a government entity, in this case the VOP board, ascribes bias to the newspaper reporting on it. Here's a brief tutorial for folks like Corey Gimbel and others who hold the ridiculous opinion that the WJ- or any newspaper- intentionally avoids covering committee meetings out of bias. Newspapers have dwindling resources, and simply can't cover most or more likely any of the dozens of various committee meetings that local governments use to channel facts and data to their boards for final decision making. That's just a fact. Here's a question, Gimbel- if you care so much about this issue, why weren't you at the village board meeting where the final decision was made, and if you were, why didn't you express your concerns to people who could actually do something with it? I suspect it likely is because it's so much easier to just cast aspersions on a newspaper publisher than it is to bother to show up and voice your, imo, quite legitimate point to actual elected officials. You're point was a good one. Your conclusion is absurd.

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