Two women speak out for women's rights on their way to Washington D. C.

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By Timothy Inklebarger

Staff Reporter

More than 100 people turned out Friday evening in Oak Park to catch the three of five buses (two departed from Chicago) to Washington D.C. for the Women's March on Washington. Similar demonstrations are taking place on Saturday in Chicago and across the country. Two women waiting to get on the bus, Megan Sutor and Debra Baker, say they want to speak out for women's rights.

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Bill Dwyer  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 7:43 PM

"Crack is indeed whack." Wow, Rani. I am just too put down to respond. Touche', girl. You go now.

Rani Dawn  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 2:59 PM

As a woman, I cannot help but believe that this was really all about women and beta males lamenting THE RETURN OF THE ALPHA MALE!!!

Rani Dawn  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 2:56 PM

LOL--Billy, when did I take back my well wishes on this beautiful unseasonably warm January day? I really have nothing to say about your comment regarding the Clinton Foundation because if you think for one effing moment that the FBI's "investigation" into it means anything to me, crack is indeed whack. I don't know how I feel about the pipeline situation. I heard Rush discuss it and he got me thinking about it in a different way--love when that happens. Trump has said he's a big fan of the environment. I DO know that the TPP would spell disaster for the environment and yet our ex Dear Leader pushed it so I am not impressed with any decree he blocked. There was probably an ulterior motive in it somehow. Keep enjoying your day!

Bruce Kline  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 2:54 PM

@Rani: I think the divisiveness and intensity of this discussion speaks to the perception that the US Presidency is in fact the most powerful position in the world; perhaps in all of history. I too once believed as you: that the "real power" did not lie with the POTUS. And a cursory reading of the US Constitution supports that belief as there are relatively few enumerated powers attributed to the POTUS. But as pointed out by Lundberg in his seminal work, Cracks in the Constitution published over 35 years ago, this belief is unfounded. Because as head of the largest branch of government, and as the person solely vested with the executive power of the United States, which historically has been proven enormous despite the fact that the meaning of executive power has never been fully defined, the POTUS has several instruments at his disposal to exercise his will and therefore manifest his enormous power. First, and foremost and perhaps the most contentious involves "executive law making". This utilizes executive instruments such as executive orders and presidential memoranda to project Presidential power both domestically and internationally. This was extensively used by Mr. Obama and no doubt will be likewise extensively used by Mr. Trump (we are already witnessing this). Second, the POTUS has a "bully pulpit" that no other politician or world leader possesses; bar none. Third, the POTUS via appointment of Supreme Court judges can set the future course of the nation well beyond any Presidential term.

John Rood Lewis  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 2:04 PM

So Marty.. you concur. No Democrat has started a war in the last 50 years.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 2:02 PM

Well that didn't last long, did it Rani? Clinton's "corruption" was investigated by the FBI, which said it found no basis for any criminal charges. Btw, since you acknowledged you voted for Stein, tell us all how you feel about Trump's executive order aiming to green light the Keystone Pipe line and the Dakota Access pipeline? Happy?

John Rood Lewis  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 2:02 PM

Addressing President Trumps repeated concerns about the millions of illegal voters that skewed the election..... If indeed millions of voters voted illegally then, obviously, we should have a redo. And this time we'll make sure there are plenty of monitors at the polling stations, we'll stop the Russian hacking, we could make the FBI agree to not interfere, we'll take down all those thousands of fake news sites from Russia and Eastern Europe that got, in some instances, more than 6 million viewers, etc. I fully support your concerns, President Trump. This will reassure everyone and, finally, we can be certain that the will of the people has been respected.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 1:55 PM

Actually, Marty, I believe our initial involvement was under Eisenhower. And the involvement of the U.S. under all those presidents, including Johnson's fraudulent Gulf of Tonkin excuse, involved intervening in a civil war. But I'll double check.

Rani Dawn  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 1:53 PM

Bill, blaming the Ruskies again, are we? LOL! Whoever hacked into the emails is not the issue. It EXPOSED her corruption and that is the point that should be emphasized. I don't watch Faux. Fake news is CNN, which shilled for her 24/7 and GAVE THE DNC DEBATE QUESTIONS!!! That is cheating. Not only didn't Trump cheat in the debates, he didn't take off days to practice and STILL won handily. Why is the Clinton Foundation suddenly laying off so many staffers after her resounding loss? Sounds to me that the backers no longer think she'll be able to pull strings. Sooooo glad she didn't get in. America chose the Light.

Marty Bracco  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 12:50 PM

Hi, Bill Dwyer...to answer your earlier question "what Democrat has started a war in the past 50 years?", that would be John F. Kennedy, who initiated our entry into Viet Nam, and Lyndon Johnson, who escalated the action into full scale war in 1965. Yes, I'm aware it's actually 52 years, but since most of this audience was alive then, I think it counts.

Tom Alan from Oak Park  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 12:10 PM

As far as the presidency goes, we have to live with what cards we have been dealt now. Respect the presidency and hope he makes the right decisions. Protest when he tries to take away rights of gays, women, and other cultures. Protest peacefully though, because it does no good to turn to violence, destruction of property, or name calling. This does the opposite, it calls negative attention to you. Let's try and keep it classy.

Barbara Joan  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 11:34 AM

I ave always prayed for wisdom for every President. Rooting for your president to fail is foolhardy and hateful and Anti American. Sad that people choose to use American flags as accessories and props instead of flying them proudly in front of their homes and businesses. .

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 11:01 AM

Enjoy your day too, Rani. I'll leave it at this for now. .. Trump did NOT win fair and square, and the circumstances of that are currently being investigated. . I have no "talking points," I have my facts and opinions from watching the last 18 months.. .. And you're confusing Faux News and Brietbart with legitimate media as regards fake news.

Rani Dawn  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 10:10 AM

I wish there was an edit button. I did not put a question mark at the end of that last sentence, Bill. I was trying to use a smiley emoji. Have a wonderful rest of your day:)

Rani Dawn  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 10:09 AM

Bill, I never said that Americans' lives were at risk. I am horrified when innocent people are killed by drone attacks. I don't care what country they reside in. The very discussion of whether or not Americans will be affected is repulsive to me. It's not all about us. I voted for Bernie in the Primaries and Jill in the General. Trump is the POTUS and he won fair and square. So even though I didn't vote for him, I am giving him a chance. I don't even believe, given past statements, that he aligns with much of what the Republican Party has pushed for over the years. His daughter is a registered Democrat, if I am not mistaken. You have all the talking points down. The fake news also said he was melting down (it was on the cover of "TIME" even) right after his successful convention in the summer. That is a typical smear tactic because these people have nothing better to do that to distort what is happening. I have been trying to wrap my brain around the TRUE meltdown that is occurring: the extended psychosis associated with Hillary's resounding Election Day loss. Yeah, some of them are Soros-paid shills trying to create the illusion that Trump is illegitimate. But there are true whackadoodles who cannot accept that the polls were fake. It would be amusing if it wasn't so concerning. Have an awesome day! ?

John Rood Lewis  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 9:45 AM

"Dwyer - you seem never to say anything without insulting someone. State your case and shut up!"...... I'm pretty sure that telling someone to "state your case and shut up" is insulting, as well. I think Ray just likes to try to intimidate people, and he likes to belittle them. It's not really working for him, but he'll soldier on regardless. It's more about venting than anything else, I imagine.

John Rood Lewis  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 9:41 AM

Barbara, Great to hear. Let's hope he follows through on all that. I hope he does and I will support his efforts all the way in that regard.

Ray Simpson  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 9:29 AM

@ Dwyer - you seem never to say anything without insulting someone. State your case and shut up!

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 8:28 AM

More right wing blather from Rani. Obama inherited a 2-front war from his idiot Republican predecessor. After G.W. Bush rushed into a pointless war in Iraq that saw thousands of Americans killed and tens of thousands wounded, Obama resolved to avoid putting troops in harms way as much as possible. Drones do that. That is not, as you so ridiculously put it, "starting a war." Republicans had no problem with drones until they realized they could use the issue as a cudgel against an African American Democratic president. .. . By the way, I see your boy is already having melt-down moments in just the first couple days of his presidency, ranting against the media, seeing visions of massive voter fraud by illegal immigrants and obsessing on the size of his ... crowds.

Barbara Joan  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 8:19 AM

Supporting the disabled community is not merely about them being "represented" in a crowd. of protesters, It is about changing the culture of neglect and abuse of the disabled and demanding the much needed services and intervention be provided as well as decent housing and opportunities,.The most vulnerable people are the most ignored.

Barbara Joan  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 8:10 AM

John--President Trump has already met with medical professionals, research scientists, advocate groups and parents to discuss Autism prevention and intervention. Trump asked Robert Kennedy to head up a Vaccine Safety Panel. Trump has pledged to improve conditions for Veterans and to ensure that any wounded and disabled receive the best care possible.That's a good start.

Kevin Peppard from Oak Park  

Posted: January 24th, 2017 2:57 AM

I've got to back up Teresa Powell about people with disabilities being represented at that event, and from Illinois. Our own Senator Tammy Duckworth was one of the featured speakers. As an Army officer in Iraq, she came back home as a double amputee. I count that as disabled in my book, and I have been the caregiver to two disabled family members.

Rani Dawn  

Posted: January 23rd, 2017 10:12 PM

Mike, I attended a Tea Party Rally Downtown back then. I wanted to see if the media would distort what happened. For the record, I was not a member nor identified with the Tea Party. I am the type who does not believe that the POTUS is the one with the true power. I even felt that way towards Dubya. So all the irrational nonsense towards Obama at first was just as irritating to me as this is.

Rani Dawn  

Posted: January 23rd, 2017 10:08 PM

Bill, I am stunned to read your question. Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama's two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau. (Cut and pasted from Thebureauinvestigates.com)

John Rood Lewis  

Posted: January 23rd, 2017 8:47 PM

Barbara, what do you think Trump will do help disabled people? Or has he addressed the issue at all? Just curious. You might know something I don't.

Barbara Joan  

Posted: January 23rd, 2017 4:40 PM

Bill-- disabled people matter and are part of our society should be your and everyone's concern. Why do you say if your are so concerned--so sad. Anyways, i cannot duplicate what the well funded and staffed organization of George Soros,, Linda Sarsour and their associates carefully planned and carried out globally. i would never ever get near such evil beings.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: January 23rd, 2017 4:19 PM

Oh please, Rani... do enlighten all of us who apparently were not paying attention; what Democrat has started a war in the past 50 years?

Mike Hanline  

Posted: January 23rd, 2017 4:01 PM

"And these marches over the weekend seemed to project all this rage onto a man who has nothing to do with their problems." Now you know how we all felt during the Tea Party rallies which began barely a month into Obama's presidency. But I'm sure you had no objection to those, right?

Rani Dawn  

Posted: January 23rd, 2017 3:50 PM

Teresa, how do you feel energized? How does that translate into action? People who attended these marches seemed to be pretty much into tunnel vision--only seeing what they want to see. The ACA is NOT affordable to some folks who make "too much" to qualify for subsidies. So while it may help a select few, it is probably a burden on the many and therefore needs a major overhaul. Will you folks who are so in love with the ACA explain why the POTUS could not pass Single Payer with a Democratic majority in Congress? Trump already is stopping TPP, which Obama championed. So who is on the side of the average Joe and Joan after all? It is so strange to me how quiet people get when it comes to a Democrat starting a war, covert or otherwise, compared to a Republican. And these marches over the weekend seemed to project all this rage onto a man who has nothing to do with their problems. And it conveniently lets off the hook Democratic men who have been less than honorable in how they treat women. Very delusional non-thinking out there. I hope people get a grip ASAP.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: January 23rd, 2017 3:37 PM

Barbara... if you're genuinely concerned about the rights and challenges of the disabled, try making the same effort the Saturday march organizers made, and quit complaining that the Women's March was somehow a failure because it didn't address an issue important to you.

Barbara Joan  

Posted: January 23rd, 2017 3:04 PM

How did this march address the incredible neglect and abuse of the disabled and the extreme lack of services, support, opportunity and cutting edge interventions and treatments for the disabled community?

Teresa Powell  

Posted: January 23rd, 2017 2:25 PM

The last two comments are false. Both groups were represented at the marches along with many other issues. The speeches I heard included a speaker on the importance of Medicaid and ACA to giving the speaker a full life despite disabiities. She was in a wheelchair. The marches were inclusive and intersectional. Most people there were supporting multiple issues. They were also peaceful, supportive and energizing for those who attended, male and female from babies to people in their 80s and nineties.

Barbara Joan  

Posted: January 22nd, 2017 9:22 AM

If this many people stepped up for disabled people, the lives of the most vulnerable would greatly improve.The WJ chose to not even report the horrific kidnap and torture of a disabled teen boy who's captors had planned to murder, though it happened in Oak Park's backyard...."All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others"

Ray Simpson  

Posted: January 22nd, 2017 8:25 AM

I understand women who support "Right to life" were specifically excluded. A tad hypocritical I would say!

Dana Todd from Forest Park  

Posted: January 22nd, 2017 7:52 AM

Actually, there were far more people leaving from Oak Park: we filled five buses. There were additional buses from Chicago as well.

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