Occupy Wall Street rally in Oak Park Saturday

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By Marty Stempniak

Staff Reporter

The Occupy Wall Street movement against corporate greed is making its way to Oak Park, with a rally planned for this Saturday.

"Make Wall Street Pay in Oak Park" is the name of the event, which kicks off at 11 a.m. Nov. 5 at Lake Street and Oak Park Avenue, according to MoveOn.org, a liberal activist group. Organizers plan to march to a local branch of Chase Bank to close down their bank accounts in a gesture of protest.

"Are you tired of the banks making all the rules? Getting bailouts? And paying no taxes? Come to our Make Wall Street Pay rally in Oak Park," the event description reads at MoveOn.org. "We will be educating people about the criminal actions of the big banks, and organizing a group of individuals to march down to the Chase Bank and close their bank accounts!"

So far, 40 participants have registered to participate in the event, which is hosted by former Oak Parker Dylan Bellisle.

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Aging Disgracefully from Oak Park  

Posted: November 9th, 2011 10:01 AM

I am so happy that the marches have started. We had to take to the streets in the sixties to begin stopping the war in Vietnam, and I was wondering when people would finally get off their computers and do it again. It makes me think of Martin Luther King quote: "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." Hooray.

OPRF Achievment   

Posted: November 6th, 2011 4:32 PM

@DB you had me listening..until the words "certain banks and a handful of elite profited wildly" Who were they, and show me where this is documented and proven. Just do not want to take on debate with feelings without documented proof.

Violet Aura  

Posted: November 6th, 2011 1:58 PM

@DB: I was right in the area around noon and it looked totally quiet. I would have come if I knew it was happening!


Posted: November 6th, 2011 12:22 PM

OPRF Achievement. The reasons are because all the actions of the Government have a specific reason, a specific lobby. For me the evidence that Congress works well for Corporations as opposed to Citizens is that they have been unable to pass ANY sort of Jobs bill, but have no issue in passing a Free Trade Agreement. Certain Banks, and a small handful of elite profited wildly from giving loans to anyone, regardless if they could pay for it. The bailout shows that the Gov. has their back.


Posted: November 6th, 2011 12:19 PM

The people have to want it. We have to stop being in these Silos of Dem. vs. Rep. and see what the real problems are and demand it. If Congress is unwilling to do the will of the people. (They already aren't according to many different polls.) Then we push in the States for a Constitutional Amendment.

Q from Oak Park  

Posted: November 6th, 2011 10:18 AM

DB, those changes would make the real difference we need. I don't know how that change will happen since the people in power enjoy the goodies from corporations more than they enjoy serving the people. I don't even understand why a president needs to campaign for a second term when a president can stand on all of the great things he has accomplished in his first term.

OPRF Achievement   

Posted: November 6th, 2011 8:15 AM

@DB - what made the Gov pass legislation that demanded Banks lend in areas and to people who did not have the capacity to pay the loan back. What made the Gov cover up the mess that is Fannie Mae. Why did the Gov lobby the Fed to keep interest rates at such crazy low levels - seeding for the bubble. Oh, & what made the Gov look the other way when there were problems - such as the latest Bankruptcy of MF Global - headed by former Dem Gov and Sen Cozine? I am sure there are VERY valid reasons?

Anne from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: November 6th, 2011 7:22 AM

Wow! Some thoughtful commentary, but also harsh remarks from some privileged yet oddly bitter people. It seems to comfort the me-and-mine-only types to assert that they fully merit their comfortable status. That's easier than feeling the discomfort of empathy or gratitude for one's good fortune. My spouse and I work hard too, but we count ourselves blessed to have reliable jobs, our kids and a home in this community. I'd like to see many more people get the breaks they deserve, too.


Posted: November 6th, 2011 1:43 AM

Q, That is a hard question. Do you mean what should the Oak Park Group do from here? Or as a nation where do we go? As a nation we need a Constitutional Amendment Ending Corporate Personhood - followed by Campaign Finance reform. That is a start. With the moneyed interests less in politics we can start looking at the REAL reforms we need. Perhaps starting with the Fed. Reserve? Dems and Reps can start listening to and serving the people, and not their Corporate Donors.

Q from Oak Park  

Posted: November 6th, 2011 12:16 AM

DB, you are absolutely correct. Now where do you go from here?


Posted: November 5th, 2011 9:46 PM

James I disagree with you. The enemy isn't the Government. The "enemey" or the problem is the too-close relationship between corporations and banks WITH the Government. Government didn't CREATE these problems. It created and passed legislation that allowed for the problems to occur. Who wrote most of the legislation? The banks, corporations, and their lobbyists. To believe that Corporations and Banks have no influence over policy making in this country would be foolish.


Posted: November 5th, 2011 9:41 PM

Violet - You should have came... We have more than 100 people on our sign-in sheet. Building great community amongst people. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-oak-park-joins-sites-of-antibank-protests-20111105,0,7563772.story http://triblocal.com/oak-park-river-forest/community/galleries/2011/11/make-wall-street-pay-in-oak-park-rally/#1

Violet Aura  

Posted: November 5th, 2011 6:50 PM

So how did Occupy OP go? I don't see any comments after the march and I was in the vincinity. Did anyone show?

JamesGeorgeCarvilleStephanopolous from Oak Park  

Posted: November 5th, 2011 12:03 PM

Once more with feeling: these problems were ALL caused by the actions of a greedy, bloated, inefficient GOVERNMENT, whose policies, while pandering to the takers, gave life to the lobbyists and caused business/Wall St/Unions, to change behaviors. FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY...IT'S THE GOVERNMENT, STUPID!! When today's march is over, that reality will remain. Now deal with it!

anonymous from Oak Park  

Posted: November 5th, 2011 10:39 AM

Thanks for the suggestions but (like ACORN) OWS thrives on chaos and it will fight ANY attempt to end it. Just watch.

vic from Oak Park from Oak Park  

Posted: November 5th, 2011 9:29 AM

In addition to Dylan, I am one of the coordinators of the event today. Just a clarification to Marty Stempniak's article posted on OakPark.Com: the march to Chase Bank is an optional, not a mandated part of our event . Please see update to our MoveOn announcement for details.

OPRF Achievement  

Posted: November 5th, 2011 7:49 AM

New JOBS? New President is needed. Read history. Every bubble in every country, regardless of the issue or country has been started and caused by A FAILED Government Policy. Taking the easy way out will NEVER solve the issue. Railing against the companies that Create Jobs and innovation (take a look at your i-phone) will never get us anywhere. It is the Government Stupid!


Posted: November 5th, 2011 7:31 AM

I am wondering if ANY of you knows who was behind the banks and the housing bubble???? THE GOVERNMENT!!! Fannie & Freddie. And you know what else.....execs there are still benefiting. Yes your (and my) tax dollars are still supporting them. Please research before you take a stand on something.

oprf alum   

Posted: November 5th, 2011 6:55 AM

If I were running your movement - you need a leader and cohesive strategy. I here, it is the large banks, it is top 1% (people who make $400K up) it is government bailout. The is not unified strategy or message/slogan - "we are fighting for equal economic opportunity for all - based on three simple ideas - people/company pay taxes, people all have the right to good employments, all children deserve a chance at a good education" I use chance not promise -

oprf alum   

Posted: November 5th, 2011 6:45 AM

I am an executive in a large firm - and for the most part, people who contribute, work their buts off and produce and RIF (reduction in force)look at performance. Also, if you worked in any high pressure (consulting, i banking, consulting, medicine), you would know there is an up or out program. EVERY year the bottom 10-15% get cut/fired. The reality of the new economy is no one is safe. You have to evolve, you have to perform, you have to invest (i,e. in new skills) - harsh but real

oprf alum  

Posted: November 5th, 2011 6:41 AM

There is no question that there are income disparity and class mobility issues as well as a huge amount of unemployed. Lets focus on ways to solve it - there is no silver bullet but education, hard work etc. are a good place to start. Also, the banks are NOT the center of gravity for power. congress, elite schools (i.e. Harvard, U OF C) corporations - ie GE have the real juice. Attacking a JPMC branch is silly. Get really organized - get voters, get a leader, agenda which the movement lacks.


Posted: November 5th, 2011 12:07 AM

Double dipping?? Big banks get bailed out, continue to foreclose on houses they gave bloated value to, those people who are still hanging onto their homes are now upside down ("underwater")but yet the wealthy say we should quit whining and be grateful to big banks becasue it is not their fault. I don't think so. Call me an idiot but now I am making a bigger sign to take to the rally at Scoville Park tomorrow.


Posted: November 5th, 2011 12:00 AM

I encourage you all to come out and listen to the stories that will be shared, and the news articles that will be posted. Its a shame some here just reduce others to caricatures, vilify, and descend into character assassination without engaging, without actually reaching out and talking with the people engaged... The broad and stereotyped statements are a shame... it shows the break down in community, where we are unable to engage one another, but rather label and insult each other online.


Posted: November 4th, 2011 11:05 PM

Violet,Thanks again for your timely depiction of us "AAs", your data analysis, and your suggestion for what our community needs to do. Oddly enough, despite your self-inflated sense of intelligence, you question what country OPRF Alum comes from but then describe "AAs" as a homogeneous community. As you cynically yet accurately implied we don't know where in Africa we come from, what nation, region, and so forth. Still you feel comfortable grouping us into one community. Still a genius eh?

Annie from OP  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 11:03 PM

Looking for work? Google: jobs North Dakota

Kage from OAK PARK  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 10:02 PM

I'll try to make it tomorrow. Hope a lot of people show up. Shut all the big banks down! Community banks will start to grow. Just heard more people went to credit unions last month than in all of 2010! Awesome! Lets keep this going.

Violet Aura  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 9:16 PM

@OPRF Alum: Your comment was patently offensive. You claim that those who are unemployed are without talent and therefore have nothing to offer employers. I don't know how old you are; I ASSume in your 20s or early 30s when invincibility still has the power to delude. No, dearie. Actually there are plenty of seasoned, WORTHWHILE employee ceremoniously dumped for whatever reason: cost more than a newbie, not green enough to take on more work for the same salary, etc. But enjoy your Porsche, LOL

Count Your Blessings  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 9:05 PM

You are lucky you came of age in the era you did. Many as hardworking and "talented" as you will never switch classes simply because they of when they were born. So spare me the fake "realness" and count your blessings --From An AA that hasn't bought the hype

Count Your Blessings  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 9:03 PM

OPRF alum, you keep mentioning that you are AA to make it seem like you are "down with the struggle." But obviously your new status as top %1-ness, has made you pro status quo.There are countless new graduates from Law and Biz schools like U of C & Northwestern who have always worked hard but are unemployed because JOBS ARE GONE. Many more honest, good workers have lost their jobs and are having a hard time finding work because of outsourcing.


Posted: November 4th, 2011 8:52 PM

The Wall Street Journal March 11, 2011 Six banks repaid nearly half a billion dollars in funds they received from the government bailout of Wall Street, the Treasury Department said, bringing the total bank repayment to 99%. Through the repayments, as well as dividends and interest, taxpayers have recovered about $244 billion of the $245 billion in TARP funds disbursed to banks. The Treasury currently estimates that TARP will ultimately provide a profit of nearly $20 billion to taxpayers

Professor Peter Von Nostrand  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 8:47 PM

Correction: You have worked

oprf alum   

Posted: November 4th, 2011 8:36 PM

@AURA - I was respoding to comment about tax rate and car. Please don't lecture me on being AA and barriers. There is a saying we use in corporate america called the black tax. we have to be twice as smart, twice as talented as white conterparts to get half as far. your comments have nothing to do with issue at hand - incpme disparity, mobility and the role of capital markets...


Posted: November 4th, 2011 7:23 PM

I'll be the one out there with a sign that says "It's the Government Stupid!" Seriously do the organizers of "Make Wall Street Pay in OP" not know who is behind MoveOn.org?

Violet Aura  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 7:07 PM

@OPRF Alum: Wow, brag much? And that's WHY you even own a Porsche--new money. I live in RF and I don't think I have ever seen a Porsche in that town. Most people with class don't feel the need to flaunt what they have...They also realize the need to utilize money in the best possible way. Cars are show-off items; not investments (I guess the exception would be vintage cars.) Since you identify as AA (which country do you hail from, by the way?), I should let you in on a stat about (to be cont.)

LiquidEvil from Oak Park  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 4:14 PM

Just think "OP Guy" if the tax payers had provided more funds and services to your apparently dumb/slacker parents, you might not be so ignorant!


Posted: November 4th, 2011 4:12 PM

OP Guy, as someone who was a free-lunch kid, I take great exception to this: "providing free lunches kids unlucky enough to have slacker parent." More like "kids unlucky enough to have parents who are trying to make ends meet in a difficult economy." I am very happy to be able to pay back my fellow citizens for their generosity, by helping the less fortunate.

Just asking from Oak park  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 4:00 PM

Since this all started out as an explanation for why the President has not created the jobs he promised with the $900 billion stimulus plan, my question is how closing down Chase will create more jobs? I don't use Chase bank, but I am curious as to what crimes they have committed? Anyone who actually works in banking knows the intense regulator scrutiny that banks receive. If you make a bad loan you are considered negligient. If you don't make a bad loan you are called unfeeling.

OP Guy  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 2:48 PM

link cards, walkers, drug treatment, dental care for poor kids, library, section 8 housing, teaching people too dumb to parent how to take care of their kids, providing free lunches kids unlucky enough to have slacker parents, giving presents to kids of dumb parents, giving coats/hats/gloves to kids of dumb drugged up slacker parents. Getting the dumb/slacker parents into rehab - GUESS WHO PAYS FOR THIS - PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WORK AND PAY TAXES

OP Guy  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 2:44 PM

I think this is perfect. I bet they can get some dudes from PADS shelter to join the march. Maybe some of the people that hang around harlem train station too and dont forget about the guy with the crooked neck on the 290/Harlem exit - he seems to know how to work the system. Will be nice if jessie and al join in as well. I think that is what makes this village great - lots of people with ideas and sympathy for everyone except the people doing the real work buying the link cards, walkers, dr

oprf alum   

Posted: November 4th, 2011 2:20 PM

G - no questions -you are right that luck is part of it. but it is funny, the harder I work, the luckier I get.

Occupy the Bread Line  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 1:38 PM

Death to Capitalism!

Put your $ where your mouth is!  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 1:25 PM

Maybe instead of taking your money out of Chase, which actually pays property taxes here, all of you angry people should "take personal action" & buy Chase stock, band together as controlling shareholders and then, as controlling shareholders, tell Mr. Dimon that he should just let people who do not pay their mortgages live in their houses for free. Or even better, start your own bank, buy the crappy mortgages from other banks cheap & let the people live for free! See how long you stay open...


Posted: November 4th, 2011 1:12 PM

Perhaps this link will help. The event tomorrow is meant to support taking personal action if you want to make a statement about how big banks have impacted our economy. We all rely on the banking system, and this is not an effort to destroy it, I could argue banks tried that already. This is a serious problem for many. Come on Saturday if you want to learn more or have something to contribute. http://triblocal.com/oak-park-river-forest/2011/11/03/anti-bank-movement-coming-to-oak-park/

Iris Yipp from Oak Park  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 1:04 PM

As one of the organizers, I can tell you that this is not Occupy Oak Park. We are using Bank Transfer Day as our inspiration to educate people about all the trouble the big banks have brought to our economy and encourage people to invest in main st. instead of Wall St. The few troublemakers who have caused some destruction do not represent all occupiers and how come none of the big bankers have paid for their destruction to our economy.

G from oak Park  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 1:02 PM

OPAlum You are not only educated, but one of the "lucky ons"Let's face it, there are many well educated African Americans within the rnks of the unemployed. Yes, skills are necessary, but corpoations would rather bleed the few employees that tht are left than to sacrifice profits and hire some of the educated, skilled and unemployed. You can count yourself not only educated, but lucky.

just asking from Oak Park  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 10:56 AM

If I am not mistaken, MoveOn.org is funded in large part by billionaire hedge fund guy, George Soros. Much of the movement has been communicated on Iphones, the product of the late billionaire, Steve Jobs, using Facebook which has created at least one more billionaire. And to read the recent articles in the Tribune on government pension fund abuse, it would appear that there is plenty of greed to go around.

anon from oak park, il  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 10:38 AM

I was with "Occupy" until I saw what destruction and chaos was caused this week in Oakland. Our police have enough on their hands here. They do not need more work due to a few idiot, violent individuals throwing objects and destroying property. As a result, "Occupy" isn't a positive thing for our village.

oprf alum  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 6:36 AM

As an African American, I really do understand the income disparity issue. My point is there are multiple issues which need to be addressed to get the 9.0% back to work - the reality is they don't have skills people want (harsh but real) and the other reality is education, hard work and discipline go a long way. don't worry about my taxes or porsche - they are just fine.

anonymous from OP  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 1:43 AM

ACORN has always been good at 3 things: 1) Gathering people together for "the cause of the day" (whatever is currently in the media spotlight) 2) Attracting media attention (photos & headlines) 3) Raising MONEY/donations That's it. Like ACORN, OWS doesn't really have any other plans Stay away from a 'leaderless' movement with a track record you can't find

anonymous from OP  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 1:27 AM

The 'leaderless' Occupy movement is led by ACORN (currently operating under a dozen or more different names). The dream of its' founder, Wade Rathke has always been to destroy capitalism...(continued)

epic lulz  

Posted: November 4th, 2011 1:00 AM

@oprf alum, if you're paying 38% in fed taxes when the top bracket is only 35%, my advice is to fire your accountant and have them audited for possible embezzlement. That, or stop lying.


Posted: November 3rd, 2011 9:57 PM

oprf alum - Comments like "Secondly, most of the TOP 1% pay plenty in taxes (on $616k, I paid $234k in federal alone)" hardly make you a martyr. I hate this movement but 99% of us don't want to hear you whine about your taxes and you still cleared more than 99% of us will ever make in a year. Your toughest decision will be Bentley or Ferarri.


Posted: November 3rd, 2011 9:52 PM

Hey, they could occupy the Comcast building?

Violet Aura  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 9:29 PM

Yeah, baby! Occupy the yarn shops, the boutiques for weird geometric women's clothes, the quirky gift shops...

Dave Coulter  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 9:14 PM

Right on: storm the barricades of Scoville Park and then buy some fancy cheese in town.

J. Pickett  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 6:50 PM

Occupy Oak Park, Stone hemingway's house, storm frank lloyd wrights neighborhood.

oprf alum   

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 6:42 PM

there are very real concerns regarding the bush era tax cuts and the impact on wealth distribution. Also, the rate of entitlements has grown (i.e. 15% of Americans on food stamps)... attacking the banks is misguided.. you should march on the true power centers - congress, large corporations, elite schools - that could care less about the lowest 25% of our society...

Violet Aura  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 6:34 PM

Afterwards I hear that everyone will head on down to Charf*ck's for some handcrafted, freetrade organic grassfed soy pumpkin lattes and wholegrain scones...


Posted: November 3rd, 2011 6:27 PM

Maybe you idiots should occupy a class on basic finance. neither my income nor wealth come at the expense of yours. ///Furthermore, a protest of wall Street sponsored by an organization founded and funded by a billionaire hedge fund trader is more than ironic, it defies logic.

Phil of himself  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 3:03 PM

Let's do it like they do it in NYC: Free STDs for all that attend!

joe@aol.com from Oak Park  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 2:53 PM

Protesting banks is pointless. The government that "regulates" the banking industry and by extension, we the voters who have allowed these scumbags to represent us, are at fault. You can't blame corporations for trying to maximize profits - that's their whole purpose. But you can blame massive deregulation and combination allowed by both parties in government. I don't have a solution, but I can tell you that OWS isn't going to find it either.


Posted: November 3rd, 2011 2:09 PM

It's about time the hopeless, downtrodden masses of Oak Park found their voice. I can only pray that our efforts bring courage to our long-suffering brothers and sisters in Lake Forest and Hinsdale.

History is doomed to repeat itself  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 1:11 PM

Sounds like the local organizer is the same cat on these WJ board who is unfamiliar with the line of historical analaysis (not saying it is right) that the New Deal actually prolonged the Great Depression. Also, last I recall, the last time lots o' banks failed the social upheaval was so great we had the Holocaust, Rape of Nanking and the Germans, Italians and Japanese starting a little thing known as World War II. Yeah, let's let all the banks fail again...worked out so well last time around.

oprf alum  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 1:01 PM

also, where is the incentive to invest. I finished b school/law school with $100k in debt - why would i take on the investment in human capital unless there is upside.. blowing up the system is not the answer -

Phil of Ideas  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 12:55 PM

There is certainly no room on this site for complex issues.

OPRF Alum   

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 12:48 PM

All - of course education is not the only root cause. As with all issues, it is very complex. Like it or not, we still live in a society in which you make your own breaks. I raised by a single mom, African American but doors were opened and I worked my ass off to get it done... As the saying goes, capitalism is the worst system except for all the rest. We need better schools, more taxes, less government and many other things - very complex issue, not just ibankers on street.

Bemused from Oak Park  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 11:27 AM

This bank thing seems rather silly. When I took out my mortgage with largish St Paul Federal, it stayed with them the entire term I had it, even after they were bought out by a larger bank. When I refinanced, I thought I'd be more community-minded and went to one of the local Oak Park banks. Within weeks after closing they sold my loan to mortgage giant Countrywide, later bought out by Bank of America, to whom I currently pay my mortgage. So much for local banking.

Bob Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 10:54 AM

For those who need more information about the damaging effects of our dysfunctional income distribution, please go here. It's worse than most Americans even realize. http://www.salon.com/2011/10/29/why_inequality_in_america_is_even_worse_than_you_thought/

JamesGeorgeCarvilleStephanopouls from Oak Park  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 10:25 AM

Doesn't anyone in OP who support this movement see the irony in the fact that the main trumpeter is MoveOn.org, the house organ for George Soros? Are you that detached from reality? Once again, it's the GOVERNMENT, stupid. All the issues you rail about today had their origins in GOVT greed, leading to changes in behavior from Wall St/Corp America/Unions. Protest if you'd like, but fight the real enemy, a bloated and greedy federal govt.

Karl Marx  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 9:56 AM

Reminder: Don't forget to bring your hammer & sickle.

Bob Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 9:53 AM

I've been active with Occupy Chicago. I'm glad to see we now have a local movement going on as well. We have people working in Oak Park who are barely making it economically. The income inequality we are seeing now is not only immoral, but socially dangerous. "An imbalance between rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailment of all republics."---Plutarch

OPRF Achievment Gap  

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 7:25 AM

All this is a Distraction to a Vacuum of Leadership. If people had jobs, this would not be occurring. History will show - BO to be the Worst President - along with JC. I am sorry, I voted for him and had high hopes. He neither has a clue about the economy and has not done the things I voted him to do. Yes, Protesting is a Right - thank God and all the people have fought for this is the past. However, it really takes the focus away from the real issue.


Posted: November 3rd, 2011 6:22 AM

OPRF Alum, do you really thinik District 97 and 200 had anything to do with the fiscal mess were in? I guess they have more power than we think....They are about to cause the collapse of Greece as well. You smart enough to know who created this mess were in..greed and the inability to sustain the economic culture that was present the past ten years are to blame. Nice try

oprf alum   

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 5:52 AM

Perhaps you should be marching on OP97 and 200 district for creating a product (our kids education) that for most kids (not top students) misses the mark.

oprf alum   

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 5:30 AM

Secondly, most of the TOP 1% pay plenty in taxes (on $616k, I paid $234k in federal alone). There must be incentive for people to invest in education, take risks etc. Unfortunately, the system is not fair and hard work, sacrifice and education still are the best equalizer America has.

oprf alum   

Posted: November 3rd, 2011 5:18 AM

Really - I am OP resident that happens to be in the top 1% (i.e. income above $450k) and understand the frustration. However, I was born in a family that was borderline poor. The issue is really ability to move within different classes - as the top 1% changes every year. Big companies are only part of the issue, it is also the crappy state of education (and access), plitics and access.

JamesGeorgeCarvilleStephanopoulous from oak park  

Posted: November 2nd, 2011 10:43 PM

It's the Government, Stupid!

Karl Marx  

Posted: November 2nd, 2011 6:23 PM

Wow man, like groovy.

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