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Still looking for some outrage! Two weeks ago I asked why Wednesday Journal is strangely silent about the First Amendment abuses by the Obama administration that you endorsed and supported last year [Whose ox is being gored now? Viewpoints, May 29]. I would have expected some explanation for your failure to defend your own industry and its historic shield from government harassment. Your silence is deafening.

Yesterday we witnessed reporting of another abuse of American citizens. The IRS targeting of conservative groups is so illegal and immoral that someone must go to jail. The "Tea Party" groups were represented by courteous, nice looking American citizens who told horror stories about how the government is using the IRS, EPA and DOJ as clubs against a differing political view, their members and their contributors.

The Tea Party has been represented in your publication as racist, extreme and out of touch with the real world and labeled with dishonest, insulting pejoratives. The individuals I saw were decent people who have been abused by the administration that seems to get free passes by your newspaper. The value of a "free press" is the dedication to report the whole story — good, bad, and ugly. Perhaps the problem is that you don't see the abuse as newsworthy as many of us do!

Ray Simpson

47-year resident of Oak Park

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Mr. Borderman from Oak Park   

Posted: June 18th, 2013 8:48 PM

Personally (and, really, what other way is there?) I enjoyed reading your post. I find male hysteria to be endlessly entertaining. Rave on, Hieronimo, rave on!

OPRF Achievement   

Posted: June 16th, 2013 12:19 AM

Jim - Peace out!

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 4:58 PM

@ OPRF - I believe that the most racist thing anyone can do is use the charge of racism against another person as a club. You have just done a racist act - shame on you!

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 4:16 PM

@ Jim - I kinda thought that was the message from the last election. I am reading about shorter more focused meetings - signs that someone with business experience is calling the shots. I have had experience cost estimating national promotions, Outside vendor selection all of the way through final project costing evaluation and would be willing to help. I am not interested in political BS - in the arena I am from there's 100 cents in a dollar - you quote me a dollar and you get paid a dollar if you did a dollars worth of work - on time. I guess municipalities see things differently - can you explain why?

OPRF Achievement  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 4:01 PM

@Jim - cartoons and pictures, both parties do it Stop with rasicsm. This is the land of opportunity.

Jim Coughlin from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 3:30 PM

No doubt,Ray. Consultants offer a fresh perspective and the results can bring excitement and growth. My concerns relate to the tens of millions of tax dollars the trustees have misspent on consulting contracts. Many awarded without a competitive bidding process or what appears to be any careful evaluation. Too often it seems the board members are just seeking an "expert opinion" to affirm a plan they support. Sometimes those reports just gather dust or are simply ignored. I would advocate we look at our own community as a valuable and untapped resource. Oak Park boasts an incredible reservoir of very talented people and highly experienced professionals. Community outreach is the key and it's up to our elected officials to solict input from residents. Advisory boards serve an important purpose but residents have to believe that the trustees are actually looking to them to offer ideas and solutions.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 2:53 PM

@ Jim - Careful! My first job out of commercial Art School was working for one of those expensive consultants. Barton-Aschman Assoc was in Evanston and we designed the first Lake Street Mall. Today, save some planters, bricks and benches the street has come full circle. The plan was fine for it's time. Fields and Weibolts were worried about Oak Brook and on line sales were never anticipated. About the same time we did Indianapolis Urban Renewal, Traffic and city planning - the first one where computers were involved. We tied the computers in Indianapolis to the one at Purdue to the one at IIT Northwestern and the one owned by Benefit trust Life in our building. All of that computing power was about 10% of the average smart phone today. And I wonder why my joints ache in the morning.

Jim Coughlin from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 2:37 PM

We can only hope that the Village Board will understand and accept that voters really want government to be equally responsive to the needs of our neighborhoods as they have been to the special interests in our commercial districts. Give the new Village President a fair amount of time to try to change the mindset at Village Hall and in Council Chambers but if we're still looking at continuing the failed practices of awarding no-bid contracts. outsourcing jobs and hiring expensive consultants; Oak Parkers may not see any positive changes.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 1:34 PM

@ Jim - was the recent local election a first step? I sure hope so!

Jim Coughlin from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 1:07 PM

A fair shake? Not really but the overall lack of civility and meanspiritedness has become the norm on many public forums and via our media outlets. Ideally, we should be able to examine and discuss any important issue without having to resort to the tactics of distorting the facts, rumor mongering and name calling. What will it take to unite this divided country and get people to work together to solve problems? Some real and honest leadership from our elected officials at every level of government would be a positive first step.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 12:25 PM

@ Jim - additionally can you honestly say that the Republicans, libertarians and conservatives get a fair shake in this newspaper? They/ we have been called some offensive names in recent and past history. You cannot demand civility for your side and not offer the same to mine and call out your side when things go overboard.

Jim Coughlin from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 12:21 PM

Well said, Ray. I am of the opinion that politicians use wedge issues to keep us divided and unfocused. This enables them to address their own self-serving interests without the nuisance of being transparent and accountable. It is disgraceful that so many of our elected officials have used their public office for personal enrichment while deliberately ignoring the real issues that impact the lives of most Americans. We pointlessly argue and belitte one another while the people we entrust to serve spend their time and energy on re-election campaigns and kowtowing to the special interests and lobbyists who provide the funding that keeps them in office and the crooked game afloat. That's my outrage!

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 12:02 PM

@ Jim - I have tried very hard not to get personal, however I have made strong statements about policy. I see no reason to apologize for that. The discourse here is you say what you believe and I say what is on my mind. Fine neither one of us has insulted the other. A weak argument leads to name calling and swamp slime debate. We have seen both strong and weak examples here and you don't need to go back over many recent posts to see textbook examples.

Jim Coughlin from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 10:20 AM

Ray, you're spot on calling out those who use a derogatory term to define a group. I do wish you would considering offering the same when comments are posted on this forum about democrats and liberals. The discussion gets off track when opinons are offered that do not contribute to a civil discourse. Name calling does not strenghten one's position in a debate. It's doubtful we will ever be able to create a mutual admiration society regarding the great issues of day but should be to express and hold a position that is not viewed as a threat. Better to challenge one's ideas than the person themsleves.

Jim Coughlin from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 10:10 AM

OPRF Achievement- racism still undercuts opportunity and potential in this country as do all forms of discrimination. Too many are still stuck seeking to prop themselves up by pushing down on those they view as less than equal. The election of our first black president was hoped to be the beginning of a new era of pride,unity,tolerance and acceptance but it's also allowed some people to express their hateful views under the guise of politcal commentary. Dehumanizing comments and offensive images of President Obama, the First Lady and their daughters have shown that we still have a long way to go in this country.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 9:32 AM

@ Jackie - sorry I am not a member of any Tea Party group, however I do agree with their principals. They, unlike you, have principals and are not the monsters you dishonestly portray. It is amusing that the liberal/progressive 501 c 3's got IRS favored treatment and no scrutiny. I gather you know all about what "teabagging" is and you are comfortable using the term in polite society.

Jackie  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 8:18 AM

@Ray--Not only have you revealed yourself as part of the tea-bagger crowd, you also admit that Tea Party groups are inherently political, with political goals, collecting political money. Which would, of course, bar tax exempt status as a 501(c)(4) social welfare organization. You and your like-minded groups should pay taxes just like the rest of us. Thanks for your unguarded moment of candor.

OPRF Achievement  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 7:34 AM

@Jim - agree with most all of your comment. Well Stated, up until you talk of racism --- really. Why just because he is black? This has nothing to do with it. Look, he was elected twice - people generally (especially the first time around) wanted him to succeed. However, almost everyone of his public stances is to tear down and go far left. Oh, except on protection issues - that he has gone to depths never seen before (collecting information warned about in Big Brother). Stop with racism.

Jim Coughlin from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 14th, 2013 6:32 PM

Ray, you've been railing against President Obama for quite a long time. I will give you credit for never ever retreating from your positions but wonder why you are unable to back up with independent and verifiable evidence to support so many of the charges you've leveled against him. Where is your proof that "he cannot tell the truth"? That may be the case in some ways regarding Reagan, Clinton and W. but has yet to be substaniated by you about this current president. I don't present myself to be an Obama defender and am most dissapointed that he abandoned the single payer plan for health care reform. Like all politicians, President Obama has not been able to deliver on every one of his campaign promises. Name one who ever did! I do respect the fact that Barack Obama was elected twice by a majority of voters and want him and our nation to succeed. His job has certainly been made more difficult by the failed GOP strategy that sought to make sure he was a one term president. Were that effort motivated by racism? I think so. Ronald Reagan benefited from Tip O'Neill's willingness to find common ground. In fact, when both parties work together, the people win. We need to reform our tax code, rebuild the country's infrastructure and economy, help our veterans, address terrorism, crime and poverty, reduce pollution and help the nations of the world to find peaceful solutions. You don't have to give him a chance, a break or even the benefit of doubt but at least make sure that what you are saying about and against him is fair and truthful.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: June 14th, 2013 5:02 PM

Ray, I will criticize Obama when there is an actual basis to do so. I do find it unfortunate that he has continued many of the Bush's policies regarding domestic eavesdropping but with the IRS scandal, there are no fact yet that would warrant criticizing him. Same with Benghazi. That is in contrast to those things for which Bush is accountable. i would implore you again to look into US. v. Johnson where an innocent woman was prosecuted to help the GOP win the Wis. governor That was wrong.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 14th, 2013 4:28 PM

for all of you Obama defenders--how about being adult enough to defend what he has done or what he has failed to do. Drop the justification by comparing to W43 and things he did. That administration has been over long enough to have the presidential library built and dedicated. obama promised the world and has failed to honor any of his commitments. he cannot tell the truth no matter what. i think he feels that we are all to stupid to see what he is doing.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 14th, 2013 2:26 PM

@ scott - you bet if they were as stupid then as they have been recently they deserve hard time. if your historical reference was about the naacp investigation - they should have had their status changed but republicans cowered in fear of being called racist - your sides trump card. works every time.

Scott from Oak Park  

Posted: June 14th, 2013 1:58 PM

I'm assuming Ray was also this outraged and wants everyone to go to jail from the IRS and Bush administration when they targeted liberal/progressive groups.

Brian from Oak Park  

Posted: June 14th, 2013 11:14 AM

Tom, in fact the former manager of the Cincinnati office testified she didn't see how low-level employees acted on their own in flagging conservative groups for heavy, specialized scrutiny. I'm sure that you adhere to the "rogue, low-level agents" theory postulated by the WH. But, this theory was specifically dismissed by Esrig. Again, please check the testimony.

Brian from Oak Park  

Posted: June 14th, 2013 10:58 AM

Tom, look at the testimony. Are you saying those folks are lying? Lerner took the 5th. And although appointed by Bush, she was head during 2010. Testimony presented to the House subcommittee states with respect to BOLO lists, its application and requests for specific conservative groups, EO Technical Processing in Washington directed the operation and requested specific applications for scrutiny. It was handled differently than standard EO apps. Check the facts, read the testimony.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 14th, 2013 6:05 AM

Obama's 3 brass monkeys ( hear, see, speak no evil) Michael, Tom and Jim have spoken and absolutely there is no 'here here'. Only FOX news and 70% of the American people ( AP poll) are concerned that there is either scandal, corruption or gross incompetence coming from the White house. Old line from monty python " Say no more, wink wink,nudge nudge"

Jim Coughlin from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 10:02 PM

Scandals? Are you referring to then-candidate Obama being seen not wearing a flag pin? Some strange rant by Rev. Wright? Still another go at the President's birth certificate? Or maybe it's just more of that utter nonsense presented as factual by Rep. Michele Bachmann? My guess is you may be trying to breathe some life back into some Fox News chestnuts like Community Organizing, Acorn, the New Black Panther Party and any of the other phoney controversies Roger Ailes has tried to pump up in an attempt to discredit the President. Those tactics still have some appeal to older white conservatives, poorly informed individuals and the racist elements in our society but most reasonable people will consider the source and reject all as inaccurate and distorted. There are a number of ways to verify the facts relating to news reports and you do yourself a disservice by not taking full advantage of that opportunity.

OPRF Achievement  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 8:40 PM

Well look here. Tom is at it again. Government employee who loves the government - as long as it is a Democrat. Wake up and stop bashing fellow OPRF who happen to not agree with your cradle to grave focus. Also - you have ignored the scandals cuz they have happened with a Dem in the WH

Timothy Ryan from Oak Park  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 5:38 PM

Wow, Tom. Tea Party members are "terrorists"...you have officially gone off the deep end, and your comments on these pages can no longer be taken seriously. You love Big Government that much? It must be how you make your living, which means at the expense of the producers of this country. It makes you a taker, and you're willing to slur a protected class (the LGBT community) to preserve your god, the almighty government. Lovely.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 5:04 PM

And Brian there is no pejorative that is too low to describe a teabagger. They are terrorists pure and simple, willing to destroy this country for their own selfish reasons (real or imagined).

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 5:01 PM

Brian What growing evidence. Lois Lerner was appointed to her position in 2006 by George Bush. The head of the Cincinnati office, a self confessed "conservative republican" has testified that the program started there and there was no outside input. Do you people do any independent research or do you just take talkingpoints from the foxnews website.

Brian from Oak Park  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 4:30 PM

Tom, there is growing evidence of senior Washington-based IRS involvement in the Cincinnati office scandal, including at least one letter requesting information about one of the groups bearing the signature of Lois Lerner, the suspended director of the IRS Exempt Organizations. She is an appointee of the WH.

Brian from Oak Park  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 4:20 PM

Tom from your comments yesterday it is apparent you lack the facts, as follows: Washington-based IRS lawyer and registered Democrat Carter C. Hull personally oversaw the agency's targeting in Cincinnati, according to interviews that two Cincinnati-based IRS employees gave to congressional investigators. "I was essentially a front person, because I had no autonomy or no authority to act on [applications] without Carter Hull's influence or input," Elizabeth Hofacre, IRS employee.

Brian from Oak Park  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 3:55 PM

Tom, let's clean-up the language please. Your use of the opprobrious label for the collection of groups protesting the dangers of Big Government is symptomatic of the Left's biggest fear. That being the growing chorus of anti-establishment dissent over taxes and a government that has lost touch and is out of control. I'm loving it, it reminds me of the 60s again. Concerned citizens fighting for liberty and against a political elite in it for themselves and their benefactors. Wake up.

rj  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 1:04 PM

Tom, the Moonbat is sure to follow. No tears, just fears. Yours will come when OCare is fully implemented. As we've already seen, no medical life saving measures for those under 12 and soon for those over 70. Sarah gets a chance at life no thanks to Comrade Sebelius.

rj  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 12:54 PM

Tom, the Moonbat is always sure to follow. No tears, just fears, as you'll soon find out with OScare when it's fully implemented. No life saving medical measures for those under 12 or those over 70, besides all the other lies in the bill. Sarah got a chance at life, no thanks to Comrade Sebelius.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 12:19 PM

rj's back. Seven months of post election tears and disbelief are enough I guess.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 12:16 PM

Ray, your latest post (aside from being nonsensical) reflects an apparent belief that facts somehow have a perspective. They don't. The truth is just that. what you hear on Fox News is the opposite. As for my Aunt Tilly, my family has a strong hereditary resistance to profound gullibility, so I seriously doubt that any relative of mine could be a teabagger.

Timothy Ryan from Oak Park  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 12:14 PM

Tom from RF, actually Rules for Radicals is written in relatively simple prose, so the Useful Idiots can understand it. Yes, I've read it several times, as part of my Michael Corleone mantra of keeping "my friends close, and my enemies closer". Alinsky in reverse, as it were. You are particularly adept at Rule # 5, "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon", as evidenced by your continued use of the gay slur "Teabagger". And the NYT as objective news source? You're kidding, right?

Jim Coughlin from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 12:05 PM

Ray, your claim that well connected people involved in a get rich scheme are driving the climate change debate ignores the fact that the petroleum industry provides much of the funding to deniers. One should be willing to accept the findings of NASA and independent scientific societies who have determined that human-made carbon emissions are heating up our atmosphere. I'm sure you remember the efforts of the tobacco companies to convince people that cigarettes were not harmful and how they were able to recruit and compensate physicians willing to advocate the benefits of smoking, even for a pregnant woman. A careful review of the evidence offered by the world's most respected climatologists should provide the "honest verifiable proof" you are demanding. Sam Thernstrom, who served as environmental policy advisor to George W. Bush stated that "the position that climate change is a hoax is untenable". It is troubling to hear some elected officials angst regarding the notion that we are saddling futures generations with huge debts and deficits while they want to do nothing to protect our air, water and soil.

rj  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 11:41 AM

Ray, of course there's no outrage from the leftist O sycophants. When all Big Government's actions are outrageously abusive, illegal and unconstitutional then nothing is. The only way leftists know how to 'govern' - made possible by today's useful idiots.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 11:03 PM

@ Jim - No, I agree that evolution is a fact. What I don't know is who designed and planned out the whole evolution scheme. Food for thought? Global warming is a fraud designed to make some well connected people rich. you cannot provide honest verifiable proof that warming is happening much less that man is to blame. Temperature changes are happening on Mars parallel to earth and there isn't an SUV in sight. The variations seem related to sun storm activity and I see that as logical.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 10:52 PM

@ Tom - you bitch at me for failing to fall under the glow of Obama brilliance and research from a position different from your own. You might look into the "teabagger" term and I wonder if you want to apply that pejorative to your aunt Tillie. Just a suggestion.

Jim Coughlin from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 9:01 PM

Ray, I had no idea you were a climate change denier. Sure hope you not going to be arguing for creationism to be taught in our public schools. Some of the folks pushing that idea actually believe mankind conquered dinosaurs!

MichaelO from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 6:13 PM

Ray, lest you forget the Bush administration is responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocents. Why should any credible news organization give those guys a pass. All you've got are "scandals" ginned up by Rove like parasites. It isn't all partisan bickering. As Ha Ha Ha so succinctly said the public doesn't like it's time wasted.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 4:59 PM

Also Ray, what teabaggers did you see testify. So far Car Thief Arsonist has not held any public meetings on the IRS. Ray, you're having scandal hallucinations from ODing on Fox News. Read the New York Times stat!!!.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 4:57 PM

Ray do you do any independent investigating of these things? Just this week, it was disclosed that the head of the IRS office in Cincinnati, who described himself as a conservative republican admitted that the program started in his office and that the White House had no involvement. As for Mr. Ryan, I can only assume that you have never read Saul Alinsky or if you did he used big words that confused you. Either way, its still sad.

Brent Showalter from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 4:43 PM

While maybe incorrect in method, nothing that the IRS did was in fact, illegal. Most groups applying for a 501c3 and 501c4, wait a long time and provide a broad variety of supporting documents to prove the veracity of their claim for tax exempt status. The Tea Party by law does not qualify for the designation they were applying for as they are actively engaged in politics. Simple, outrage unnecessary.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 4:36 PM

@ JC - all things in their proper order. I am still waiting to see the "Fast and Furious", " Beghazi" and "New Black Panther" documents that are being hidden by Holder and the DOJ. The oversight committees ranking member cherry picked 1 interview and made the proclamation that everything was settled. Sort of like global warming I guess. The Tea Party groups were targeted! The IRS admits that fact - no question! That is a powerful arm of our government clubbing a group that it disagrees with. That is criminal! Releasing confidential donor lists to opposing groups is also illegal - the "Chicago way" again. BTW "Tax free status" does not imply that tax payer money is being sent to these groups. @ Nelson Taruk I am only asking the Wednesday Journal to apply the same commentary to Obama that was given to Bush. Tilting at windmills? I know that ! Someone must hold the WJ's feet to the fire.

Jim Coughlin from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 11:36 AM

Ray, I trust that are equally outraged by Rep. Darrell Issa's refusal to release full transcripts of his committee's interviews with the IRS agents involved. You likely remember Issa recently pledged to release all of the transcripts in their entirety but has since backed off that promise. I suppose he is worried that this witch hunt is falling apart. Let's consider the fact that the IRS was charged with determining whether an application for tax exempt status should be granted to an organization based upon the notion that the group's activities are exclusively devoted to social welfare promotions. For some of these groups that entailed trying to get rid of Obamacare. Keep in mind that the number of applications submitted to the IRS for review during the past 2 years had nearly doubled and most were linked to conservative groups. It should also be noted that none of those exemption requests were denied. President Obama has stated that the IRS must not be anything less than neutral. Let's see if a review of the full transcripts reveals there is a reason to be outraged.

Pete Ryan from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 11:08 AM

Tim - my brother from another mother - you seem so bitterly delighted in current failings, yet I sense you would be on the "defending" side of the fence from 2000 - 2008, where many of the (yes) continuing policies originated. Disillusioned by Obama? Hardly. Smart enough not to be fooled by any politician, left or right. The country survived 8 years of W, it'll survive 8 of BO. Clearly politics in this country is all about "I told you so" in hindsight, not about being productive. Own that.

Nelson Taruc from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 10:32 AM

Ray, I feel your pain but can I be honest? The WJ should NOT be your go-to source for putting national issues in local context. I think you need to lower your editorial expectations a bit, skip the filler columns (I mean, really ? "Embracing the Hassle of Oak Park"?) and stop engaging in political battles against unarmed opponents. On the plus side, I do appreciate how your letters inspire passionate responses.

Ha ha ha!  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 10:25 AM

Wait, you're talking about the same Tea Party groups who were illegally using non-profit status to shield donor names when they should have registered as political orgs? The IRS calls them out and suddenly it's a "scandal?" THAT'S why most Americans don't care. Same with the NSA or Benghazi. You can't make up a scandal then be surprised nobody else is righteously furious. The public doesn't like its time wasted.

Timothy Ryan from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 10:23 AM

...and, predictably, Tom from RF with the Alinsky 101 reply from the mind-numbed robotic left wing fringe. It's hard when your hero disappoints you, Tom, I realize. Had you not been so consumed with your hatred of George Bush & Fox News, you'd have actually researched the lack of accomplishment and intelligence of the now Current Occupant, and you'd have never fallen in love so hard. You now know he doesn't love you either, & it hurts. Sorry, this one's on you. Deal with it.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 10:01 AM

@Tom - Again I will ask you where your factual information is coming from? I watched those tea party people relate their stories, under oath. No filters, no scrubbing inconvenient facts - just honest citizens relating how their government was screwing them. You give a direct "There- there" quote from the president without any verifiable data to back it up. If you can accept Benghazi, IRS, AP, NSA corruption as no there there you must be living in that vacuum. You find FOX to be repugnant because their reporting isn't consistent with your preconceptions. Tough - if you want to make an argument put some meat on the table and leave Chris Mathews to the comedy channel

MichaelO from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 9:56 AM

Hey Ray, Remember the BENGHAZI!!! No, seriously, Ray, the sweet victims of IRS tyranny were very moving. They should all be given carte blanche as the virtuous, social welfare groups they are. You know what I mean, Ray; those selfless paragons, those heroes, who are only bettering society while we, the American taxpayers, are footing their bill. You think you might be missing the bigger picture, Ray?

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 9:23 AM

Ray, I realize that you live in the fact free vacuum that is the right wing echo chamber (where your fellow traveler Mr. Ryan must keep you company) and no doubt it is hard to see with all of that froth coming from your mouth, but if you actually did some research (instead of swallowing whole what your are fed by Fox News) you would see that there is no there there in connection with the IRS and the WH. Darrel Issa (R-Car Thief/Arsonist) is hiding the truth from you. You don't care I know.

Timothy Ryan from Oak Park  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 11:00 PM

To answer your very appropriate question, Ray, the WJ and the Oak Park left in general remain in stunned silence because they realize that they have foisted upon the country a bigger, nastier, more dangerous yet less intelligent Richard Nixon. They have been in denial, but are just starting to come out of their purple haze and the vision of what Pres Obama really is has them terrified. Like The Who sang, "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"....only much worse.

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