Four cell phones stolen by force, one from 9-year-old girl in Oak Park

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By Jean Lotus

Forest Park Review Editor

Oak Park police reported four incidents of cell phones being stolen by force from Oak Park residents within the past week.

In the first robbery, a victim was walking eastbound near Erie and Kenilworth around 10:30 p.m. June 6 when he was approached by four males who appeared to be juveniles. The victim told police one demanded the man's wallet and then struck him in the face with a closed fist. The other three then began to strike the victim and during the struggle, the man dropped his black iPhone. The subjects grabbed the phone and ran northbound on Kenilworth Avenue from Erie Street. Police recovered the phone on the ground in the 400 block of N. Kenilworth.

In the second robbery, a 15-year-old boy walking in the 300 block of North East Avenue on June 7 around 11 p.m. was followed by a male who allegedly tapped him on the shoulder and asked to use his cell phone. When the boy refused to give up the phone, the offender allegedly struck the boy on the side of his head with a closed fist, causing him to fall to the ground. The victim told police the offender continued hitting him and then stated, "I have a gun, give me your phone." The aggressor then reached into the back of his waistband. Then he removed the victim's black iPhone in a blue case and fled northbound on East Avenue. The loss was estimated at $600.

In another incident, a man was ambushed on his bicycle by five men as he rode southbound in the 700 block of Fair Oaks Avenue around 11 p.m. on June 9. The victim told police as he crossed Augusta he observed three men approach from the right and two from the left, blocking his path and forcing him to stop. One man displayed a black handgun and allegedly pressed it into the victim's side. He then allegedly reached into the victim's pocket and removed a Pantech Discover cell phone in a clear case. The offenders then told the man to get off his bike and run away northbound on Fair Oaks. Police could not find the offenders. Loss was estimated at $50.

A 9-year-old girl had an iPhone snatched from her hands as she played on the playground equipment at Hatch school, 1000 N. Ridgeland Avenue around 7:40 p.m. on June 10. According to police, the child's parents were about 100 feet away watching a baseball game at the field when five male Chicago juveniles approached their daughter, took the iPhone from her hands and ran from the scene. Oak Park police found a group of juveniles matching witnesses' descriptions and recovered the cell phone. Four Chicago juveniles, ages 14, 13, 13 and 12 were arrested and turned over to parents.

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OP Rez  

Posted: June 17th, 2013 9:52 PM

@ here we go, black on black violent crime in Oak Park does not come close to the numbers of black on white violent crime. What are you trying to say? That if only 13 or 14 year old white kids were less scared when they get attacked by multiple black guys, then they wouldn't get attacked? Way to blame the victim and make excuses for these thugs. Seems like I'm not the actual "goof" here.

here we go  

Posted: June 17th, 2013 3:51 PM

OP Rez, ure a goof. You say south/west sides (meaning black people) attack white people mostly which certainly doesn't explain the "black on black crime" issue. One guy already posted it on here, white people get targeted by black people because generally they are already afraid and intimidated. I have witnessed black people who are usually quiet and tame get bold and big around white people who are already intimidated. They do not view or treat non intimidated whites the same as Oak Parkers.

Violet Aura  

Posted: June 17th, 2013 1:07 PM

Bill, that is exactly right! You are doing the right thing as well as helping them know what is appropriate behavior. We might think that some of these kids are being "uncouth," but some might never have had anyone model the way to act when in public.

joe from south oak park  

Posted: June 17th, 2013 12:42 PM

the leaves has a pretty good write up with a few more incidents that were not reported here: http://oakpark.suntimes.com/news/20797612-418/spate-of-cell-phone-thefts-in-oak-park.html

OP Rez  

Posted: June 15th, 2013 1:38 AM

Bill, you bring up a good point about expecting and demanding respect for the rules. This creates a general sense in someone of acceptable and unacceptable behavior, and keeps in check the little things. If we let the little things go, like swearing around little kids etc... it gives people a sense that rules and common decency don't apply to them, and that's when things get much worse. You can always notice an area in declining by the increase of trash and graffiti that's allowed to accumulate.

Bill from Oak Park  

Posted: June 14th, 2013 2:49 PM

(continued) We have a very responsive police force. I'd like to think OP can be a refuge for kids from the city. Come play. But society has rules so respect them and us. The day I feel I have to take safety precautions on the street in OP is the day I move.

Bill from Oak Park  

Posted: June 14th, 2013 2:43 PM

My kids go to Hatch and we are at the park all of the time. As Oak Parkers we can't be whimps when teens come into the park. The park is clearly marked with age limits. Usually when the teens come in they take over the swings and start swearing like - teens. I ask them to stop swearing in front of my kids and if they mouth off I tell them I will call the police. Always works. I also did this with the (white) guy who used to let his German Shepherd run free in Taylor Park.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 10:14 PM

Joe, if only Hemingway was alive today, I bet his quote about Oak Park "the village of wide lawns and narrow minds", would be directed at a whole different demographic of Oak Parker... namely the ones that seem to think it's better to allow low lives to do what they want in the name of being P.C.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 10:07 PM

and I believe in fighting for a place that has value, as oppose to letting it be dictated by a bunch of losers. If people don't stand up for Oak Park, sooner or later these human wastes will turn it into the holes they live in.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 10:04 PM

VA, There are plenty of cases where the fools don't know what the individual has, assaults them and then they happen to have an Iphone or their wallet etc... Not saying iphones are not targets, but the main thing is to rob someone for something valuable, while getting kicks and recognition out of assaults. I'm not overly concerned about myself, but I am hyper vigilant about my family. I don't move because there are many things I love about Oak Park that keep us here cont...

Jmg  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 5:56 PM

they are also countng on our blind eye and reluctance to profile. Go with your gut. Call 911 when you see a group of teens that look out of place. 2 years ago i watched a crew of 5 kids on 4 bikes. The locked one of the bikes up a block away from a park and cruised in looking to snatch a few bikes. Call often. if you feel funny about it ask the Police if it was a good call and when to call in the future.

Rambo 5000 from cabrini  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 5:40 PM

We must remain tolerant to all people, but at the same time, stand firm and protect yourself and family. The folks causing these crimes smell fear and know you will not fight back because your afraid. This is a problem. If you grew up in a rough area, youll always have that edge I believe. Street smarts are just as important as formal education. Use your mind, if you have to fight back let it all out and dont stop until your safe. The punks will eventually get the message.

DF from Oak Park  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 12:40 PM

On iPhone shutoff: I found the following [there were many]: Apple iPhone Thanks to iCloud, you can now locate and remotely erase any iPhone. While you still have the device, head to Settings > iCloud and turn on Find My iPhone if it isn't already enabled. If you lose your phone, you can find it either by installing the free Find My iPhone app on another iOS device, or by visiting icloud.com, signing in, and using Apple's Web-based Find My iPhone app. With either tool, you can remotely lock the

Violet Aura  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 12:14 PM

@OP Rez: It's the iPhones. Otherwise you would see all cell phones being stolen. It's like back in the day with the gold chains. They weren't ripping off silver from necks and they are not stealing Net10 flip phones because they have zero status so no resale value, nor status if the thief wants to just own one of them. But you sound very concerned about your safety. If it's that bad then why don't you move to Homer Glen or something? I think we all have to be smart about how we move around OP.

Juice from Oak Park  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 11:41 AM

I find it very disturbing that these crimes are not reported as often as they should. My elderly father was held up at gunpoint in the 80's in his own garage for a few bucks...only gotten worse. No respect, not even for children or elderly from these thugs. Let's call a spade a spade. no racial profiling, just the truth !!!

Inspector Harry Callahan from San Francisco  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 9:12 AM

I ride a bicycle and I could only hope that five low lifes would attack me and try to rip me off. My words to the five scumbags would have been, "do you feel lucky punks? Will do you"? As they saw me pull the most powerful hand gun in the world, I guarantee you they would have fouled themselves! Five less thugs would make the Oak Park a better place.

Speedway from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 13th, 2013 12:55 AM

I prefer to think prevention is more the key than defense. I don't think I would be walking alone at night. I think if circumstances developed that I would scream for help. Call "fire", "fire". I have seen more Oak Parkers come out to aid those in trouble and call the police. Most OPers are not trained in self defense and someone could get seriously hurt. Is that what we want?

joe from south oak park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 10:04 PM

No worries Rez, at least Hemingway didn't seem to have a problem defending himself. From what I remember he was pretty a good boxer.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 6:46 PM

truly how not to be "facist" and "bigoted". Thank you Frank Lloyd Wright for opening our eyes to how were can be more inclusive and sensitive to these well meaning youths... they're just acting out like any normal teen would, right? Cause they're actually all honor role students that just happened to make the wrong decisions that evening, morning, afternoon... Maybe we should all just sit around a bond fire, smoke some funny tobacco and sing "we are the world". That's solve everything!

OP Rez  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 6:41 PM

Yes, it's soooo "fascist" and "bigoted" to want to defend against your children, wife, husband etc... falling victim to a gang of young men out to pummel and rob them. Those poor gangs just don't get a break do they? We should, instead, teach our kids to turn their cheeks after the gangs crack them on one side, so they can do the same to the other, and then lay their heads on the asphalt so they can stomp our kids... This way we can be sensitive to the gangs feelings, because this is cont...

Victim times two from oak park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 4:54 PM

Iam currently a Oak Park resident. After living in Lincoln Park for 5 years I decided to move to the burbs. In Lincoln Park gangs would walk down Fullerton ave near the lake and jump people, stomping there heads. Now, in Oak Park I see the same thing. There is NO respect or LOVE towards certain people in society. Some are so lost and full of hatred. They will kill you and laugh with friends. This is the future of America

Frank Lloyd Wright from Ook Pork  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 3:42 PM

I, Frank Lloyd Wright, have decided to come back from the dead to save Oak Park. I will bring Hemingway with me and we will start a punk band to empower youth to protect the streets with love and stuff. I guess that I will have to play guitar, since Ernie's a bit of a drinker, but his rhythm is okay enough. Anyhow. I think that "Shotgun and the Suicides" might be a decent enough name for the band, but all of our songs will be about iphones and how we aren't actually Fascist bigots.

Dan Hefner from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 3:33 PM

It is all about parenting or lack thereof. This is the underlying cause of the nonstop crime wave in Oak Park and elsewhere. Without guidance and support from their parents, these juveniles drift into the waiting arms of this gang or that gang. Once the offender starts running with the gang his chances of a life spent in prison are about 70%. Bottom line, do not have children if you do not intend to raise them as law abiding citizens!!!

OP Rez  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 2:30 PM

question, there is an app that iphone is developing (has developed?) that makes the iphone useless if someone tries to set it up as a new user. If iphones were trackable, I'm sure the police would be doing just that, which they aren't. This attempt by apple is not going to cut down on the robbery attempts, because these animals will continue to rob the people of anything they possess. It's like putting tape on a leaky hose, it just forces more water out of the other holes.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 2:24 PM

PSA, I know you're joking to some degree, but the real problem is, it's not particularly the iphone the scum is after, it's the feeling of power they get when they victimize individuals, ironically doing so in large groups, since they're cowards. It's the acting out of their misplaced rage and they're pathetic attempt to exert some sort of violent persona to have an identity in their dysfunctional culture. The iphone is just a symptom... if it wasn't an iphone, it would be something else.

PSA from Blackberry  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 2:03 PM

Stop smartphone theft today... buy a Blackberry. I basically do the same thing as your fancy-pants iPhone and no one will steal me. Dangle me outside the opened L train doors at every Green Line stop. Leave me on a Starbucks countertop. You can't get rid of me no matter how hard you try. The more you know...

question  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 1:10 PM

Isn't it easy to track stolen iPhones? How can there possibly be a market for stolen iPhones when they can just track them using GPS?

OP Rez  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 12:54 PM

south and west sides attack people, most Caucasian, by themselves. It's amazing how under reported this stuff is. It's the same type of thug mentality, with one notable exception... when it happens on Michigan Ave, each street corner is filled with 5-6 cops for the entire mile. When it happens in Oak Park, it's just another week without change.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 12:48 PM

when these crime occur. Smart phones are so common these days that there is the assumption that everyone in a relatively wealthy area has one. But I don't believe smart phones and wallets are the only motivation for these crimes... there's a culture of groups of teens targeting single victims, and part of it has to do with wanting to assault someone for gang status, culture of violence they were brought up in etc... The same stuff happened downtown Chicago where "flash mobs" from the cont...

OP Rez  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 12:43 PM

VA, it's true that kids don't need iPhones (though iphone are not that expensive these days... you can get a free one with a family plan), and it doesn't help if people flaunt their expensive electronics around... but that doesn't justify the actions of these thugs, how are obviously out and about looking for anyone to make a victim out of. You'll notice that in a lot of cases, the victim gets assaulted, then the thug searches them for the phone/wallet, so phones are not always on show cont...

OP Rez  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 12:37 PM

Bridgett and VA, the first half of Sally's comment reads as sarcasm, and I though it was until the second half. If Sally meant it to be sarcastic, she needs to work on it a little more. Either way, there are enough people in Oak Park that seem to share the ideology Sally writes, without the "sarcasm".

Unfortunately  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 12:32 PM

Unfortunately, there is only one solution to the "babies having babies" culture that knows no racial bounds: Norplant. The challenges to the first child (and parent) when the next child is born increases exponentially. Yes, this solution is voluntary - it is only for those who apply for welfare. This will then allow the parent AND child to focus on school and job training - so important, esp in today's economy.

Violet Aura  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 11:09 AM

Bridgett: Good observation! I agree on second thought. But Sally should have gone further with the sarcasm...

Bridgett from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 10:59 AM

I don't think "Sally's" comment was meant to be taken seriously. If you read it out loud, the sarcasm becomes more obvious.

Violet Aura  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 10:59 AM

*Edit: CRUNCHY granola. By the way, I am not blaming the victims. I just think about that awful case where the woman fell down the stairs on the El because the young thug was running after stealing an iPhone. I wonder if some of them are stealing it for the phone itself? It's such a status symbol.

Violet Aura  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 10:57 AM

Cont. the vicim was on the sidewalk when this happened. Even a group of men would have a hard time ambushing a cyclist in the street if they were on foot, I would think! And that is a fairly snazzy area so it's something to really realize--that you always have to have your wits about you.

Violet Aura  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 10:55 AM

Some observations: if you have a highly coveted, expensive item like an iPhone, then others will want it. Not just those from the 'hood but even in the 'burbs. Why does a child need a $500 phone, though? Or any minor? I just bought a Net10 phone for $5.99 and it included 300 minutes. I thought OP was more cruncy granola and now it seems more like conspicuous consumption-ville. Also, walking around at 11 pm leaves you vulnerable. I'd like more info on the bike ambush. I wonder if *Cont.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 10:44 AM

Sally, I live in Oak Park too, so when you say "we", you are certainly not speaking for me. Your ideology is part of the problem. That kind of thinking and acting is what gives these low lives the freedom to do whatever they want, because they know there are plenty of suckers who accept it. Also, you must have not read this article you're commenting on, and the large amounts of other assault/robberies in Oak Park, because people ARE getting hurt. It's time to pull the head out of the clouds.

Anonymous  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 10:06 AM

@Sally - why should we turn a blind eye in our own home? And people were hurt. When is the Village going to step up and do something proactive?

Anthony Kolovitz from River Forest  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 9:19 AM

@ Guy Ambushed by 5 people. Grew up in OP and same thing happened to me and a friend in 1982. Surrounded, stopped kicked and bike stolen.

Sally from Hatch   

Posted: June 12th, 2013 9:06 AM

@ Paul I hope you are not from OP. That is not how we think. We must turn a blind eye to the crime that is perpetrated by the people of the east. We can and will continue to replace our IPhones, copper gutters and BMX bikes. As long as no one is hurt or maimed it is OK.

Paul Kersey from Oak Park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 8:05 AM

I can only hope that one if these pieces of human garbage will attempt to "hit a lick" with me. The perp will pay a big price. As Gunnery Sgt. Lopez told us in Dong Ha, "If they appear hostile, smoke em!!" Good advice then and good advice now. The world can get along without one more so called "honor student" who was about to turn his life around. Amen

joe from south oak park  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 6:22 AM

op rez - i could not agree more and didn't think you were advocating use of a weapon as first resort.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 1:56 AM

as a last resort to potentially save you... not to go out and cut up every 14 year old that may pose a threat. The other problem is, most of these thugs are banking on the fact that Oak Parkers won't fight back, so they know people here are easy targets. When people start fighting back, it sends a different message. I wonder how many of these incidents are actually part of initiations into gangs. Anyone with gang ties committing violent crimes should be charged as urban terrorists.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 12th, 2013 1:53 AM

Joe, thank you for the personal stories and also the correction on knife length. I agree that you will have to deal with the emotional trauma of what happen if you use a weapon and it goes bad, and in many cases, handing over phone is the way to go... but you need a plan B is him or his friends start laying into you. It is never a fair fight on the street, and you will be out numbered, and most likely reacting to a sucker punch (thugs don't pick fair fights), so I'm suggesting a weapon cont...

Roger Conner from Oak Park  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 11:00 PM

Somehow I don't think turning the Chicago kids over to their parents will be sufficiently traumatic to make them think twice about playing such games again.

White atsgnag from west  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 10:23 PM

I grew up with gangs, thugs ect. OPRF and even FP is like a Golden Egg in the middle of a drug infested gabage dump. Mostly young stupid future gang kids come to OP to "hit a lick," or rob for gang credibility or just for money. White people are scared as a mutha and usually give up the phone cash ect. Austin ave is the heroin highway of usa. Also, many drugs purchased in OPRF. Be careful, always stay alert, try to walk in pairs. The summers gonna be hot soon and crime will explode.

joe from south oak park  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 9:58 PM

A bit of a personal story that might explain my comments below. I had a friend that I served with in the Army who shot a 12 year old in Kosovo. The kid stepped out from behind a corner aiming an AK-47 at a group of soldiers and by all accounts the shooting was justified. However justified, it was little solace as the experience haunted my friend for the rest of his short life. Taking the life of another is an intensely personal experience, often with long lasting emotional consequences.

joe from south oak park  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 9:25 PM

Just a bit of clarification on carrying a knife. 2.5 inches in Chicago proper, 3 inches in the rest of the state. As to the ccw arguments, I remember being a young teenager. Thinking i was invincible. Don't really see CCW being a deterrent to the attempt. I'd rather loose the phone than draw on a 13 year old. That said in the case of the second robbery it sounds like it would be justified. I would just hope that the shooter would have the resources to cope with the emotional consequences.

Former OPRF student  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 8:42 PM

Sid, as a former OPRF student I doubt that the kids in OPRF who are stealing phones are from outside the district. More likely kids who live in OP or RF who are trading the phones for west side drugs and telling mom and dad they were stolen.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 8:39 PM

The biggest complaints people have are the high taxes, village spending, retaining businesses and parking. As far as I'm concerned, crime is THE biggest issue the village faces. We live in a village where you can't take an evening stroll without the real possibility of being a victim of assault at the hands of a group of thugs, or robbed at gun point, where children and teens are robbed and beaten up... and people are concerned about PARKING!

OP Rez  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 8:31 PM

they're worried that they'll come across as discriminatory. So there are a lot of both institutional and residential forces going against addressing this major problem with the village. So, nothing will change, because the village and most of it's residents will sit back and hope that things will get better on their own in private.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 8:28 PM

discussion stays open. Oak Park really needs a vocal and public outlet or forum to discuss these problems, but it doesn't because it's not good for PR, which means not good for attracting tourists and businesses. The people who get the short end of the stick are the residents, because most businesses close early, and most tourists are not here at night, or in the more crowded areas. It also some how goes against the liberal credo (I'm liberal btw) to acknowledge these problems, because cont...

OP Rez  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 8:24 PM

Sid, maybe yes, maybe no. These types of discussion typically get shut down by the WJ because anytime anyone suggest that someone from Chicago "did it", they see it as racial profiling (even though the majority of the time that is the truth). Though stating such being the case in the high school gives the WJ more reason to shut down because there is typically less evidence. These discussions are important, cause Oak Park typically has a policy of silence on such matters, so I hope this cont...

Sid  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 7:57 PM

@Bridgett. And I'll bet you any money the kids stealing the phones in the high school are thugs who are here illegally from Chicago.

Bridgett from Oak Park  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 7:24 PM

Sadly, theft doesn't just happen on the streets. Within O.P. schools, kids are getting their phones stolen.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 7:17 PM

I would not be surprised if a lot of these crimes were gang related. The gangs get the phones, the teens get a personality boost in the eyes of the adult thugs, and no one goes to jail. It's basically thug christmas out here. The ONLY repercussion for these wastes of lives is that the victim fights back and gives them some pain... NOTHING else will do anything, because it hasn't.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 7:14 PM

Harold, this is the problem. These teens are underage, so the penalty, if any, are so minimal that there is not incentive to change behavior. The reward for these thugs is that they get an iPhone they can sell, and more so, they get "street cred" for committing a crime. They wouldn't be like this if their parents gave a shit, so handing them over to a parent does nothing. Plus, it's typical of gangs to send underage teens and kids to commit crimes, because they don't get punished.

OP Rez  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 7:04 PM

areas of Chicago, and along with that comes predators that are willing to take advantage of people who arrant use to fighting. The police are obviously too few to truly address the problem. Most of the time the police show up after the fact, and sometimes catch the thugs. The obviously does nothing to deter crime, so until the village with willing to build a wall, or hire enough cops to create check point every other street, the public is going to have to take things into their own hands.

harold from oak park  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 7:03 PM

Last summer I was having a coffee with a friend at Caribou when a teen ran up to the table and grabbed my friend's I Phone with the comment "that's mine now". My friend gave chase while I called 911. The police cornered the thief a few blocks away and the phone was recovered. The police said we would be contacted to appear before the court in the future. This never happened because the juvenile was released to the custody of his parents who are probably less than role models

OP Rez  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 6:59 PM

DON"T get backed into a corner, or put yourself in a position where you have no where to run. If you have no choice, FIGHT as hard as you can, because if you are getting hit, you might as well hit back as hard as possible. Attack vulnerable areas, such as the eyes, the throat, the groin etc... and keep hitting "them" there with your knuckles or a hard object. Do whatever you must to survive. We don't live in LaGrange, or some other safe suburb, we live next to one of the highest crime cont...

Sid  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 6:59 PM

I notice that the race of the perpetrator's are never mentioned. We all know who did it but no one wants to print it. Ghetto thugs from Chicago who don't have jobs but come to Oak Park where decent, hard working families live and these thugs come here to our village to terrorize, steal, beat up and brandish weapons against our citizenry. But if you stop them, they pull out the race card. Typical.

OP REZ  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 6:52 PM

Don't be afraid to follow your instincts, if they tell you something maybe wrong. If that means profiling, do it! Too many people allow themselves to fall victim because they are either too embarrassed to cross the street when a "group" is walking towards them, or they don't want to feel like they are "profiling". Don't give "them" the opportunity to cause you harm. ALWAYS be aware of who's around, and ALWAYS consider an exit strategy; think of directions you can run, doors you can knock on...

OP Rez  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 6:47 PM

opportunity to strike them or get away. If you have heavier "Maglite" it can also be used for striking (which is why security guards you can carry a gun, carry a "large" Maglite. Consider anything you can turn into a weapon for self protection, a pen with a sharp point, a rock on the ground, a cane etc... don't let "them" get within arms length of you. If "they" do, it means their punches can reach you. ALWAYS consider you distance to them, and maintain that distance. Cont...

OP Rez  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 6:42 PM

Just so everyone knows, it's legal to carry a knife no more than 2.5 inches long in Illinois (measuring of the actual blade, not including the handle). Learn how to use it, practice pulling it out of your pocket and opening it quickly from concealment. Practice slashing motions and stabbing motions on different materials, BUT familiarize yourself with the law and the legal use of deadly force. Consider a ultra bright flashlight, as momentarily blinding your attacker may give you an cont...

OP Rez  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 6:32 PM

These crimes are becoming more of an alarming trend to be swept under the carpet, though I doubt the village will address it any differently than it is. There seems to be cultural similarities in the way of, groups of teens sucker punching their victims, stealing their phones, as the group cowardly beats up the victims. So, what will the village recommend? Whistles? There is only 2 ways to deal with this; building a large wall around the village, or police on every block all the time.

Tom Jones from Cardiff  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 6:25 PM

Dana, I have it on good authority that the miscreants were Welsh, and proud Welshmen at that. What's up, Pussycat?

an iphone from Chicago  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 5:49 PM

I am an iphone and I need people with guns to protect me. Lots and lots of guns. I'm small and expensive and scared. Help!

Jim Coughlin from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 5:01 PM

These crimes involved armed robbery and assault. Stealing cell phones seems minor compared to assault and battery and actually displaying a handgun during the commission of a crime. Residents need to continue to be vigilant and an increase in police presence in our neighborhoods has to be a priority. A community wide effort is required.

Sick of thugs in Oak Park  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 4:59 PM

I've had it with thugs (yes, thugs..no matter what age) in Oak Park! And Chris Carrier, please don't EVEN think about blaming the victim!!! Good God, are you suggesting that if only the 9 year old had a cheaper phone or no phone at all, she wouldn't be a victim? Parents are providing cell phones to their middle schoolers as a safety for them to be able to keep in touch in the event that they need them or in an emergency. BTW, When and where have you last seen a pay phone in Oak Park?

Chris from Oak Park  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 4:59 PM

The current CCarry law passed in Springfield (Gov. reportedly considering an ammendatory veto to address absurd parts of it) bans guns in several locations including schools --so parents of a kid at Hatch playground would not be a "law abiding gun owner" carrying a firearm there. Also: It's magical thinking --a scenario pushed by the gun industry --that armed citizens reduce crime. Evidence shows a layman's gun is far more likely to be stolen or used against the owner than in halting a crime.

Mary Haley from Oak Park  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 4:30 PM

I obviously don't condone the violence, real or threatened, or people stealing from anyone. But I fear that if we start going around with our concealed weapons, violence will escalate. The last time I heard, the penalty for robbery wasn't the death penalty.

Dana  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 4:27 PM

How about some REAL descriptions of these thugs? Height, weight, clothes, race????? The report details the color of the phones but not the thugs. Come on.....give us the whole story!

Matt Nordquist from Chicago, Illinois  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 3:52 PM

i don't reckn' the 45 you refer to if legal would curtail. the victims are young and dumb. they'd probably be killed if they fumbled around to pull there gun out. I'd like a law change but these incidents????

Chris Carrier  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 3:42 PM

Kind of crazy to think we have children walking around with $600 devices in plain view. Back in my day (etc)

Chris Carrier  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 3:38 PM

Really? Will 9 year olds have concealed guns too?

Paul Kersey from Oak Park  

Posted: June 11th, 2013 3:32 PM

Once the concealed carry is enacted, these crimes will be curtailed. These cowardly criminals will not be so bold if they know they may be looking at the business end of a .45 caliber Glock. If they are stupid enough to try robbing me, it will be their misfortune!! In the end the Oak Park and the rest of theworld will be a better place without these predators!!

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