Oak Park might drop two lanes of traffic from Madison Street

"Road diet" plan would also add bike lanes

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By Marty Stempniak

Staff Reporter

Traversing Oak Park's stretch of Madison Street might get tighter in the near future for motorists. On the other hand, it might get a little easier for bikes and pedestrians.

Village officials are considering putting the busy four-lane thoroughfare on a "road diet," which could involve dropping a traffic lane on either side of Madison to allow for wider sidewalks and bicycle lanes, said John Mac Manus, a land planner hired by the village last year to come up with a new vision for the street.

Years ago, Madison was known as "Auto Row," with dealerships lining the street. But those businesses have disappeared, he said, and now Oak Park needs to figure out a new identity for the road.

"Madison Street is becoming something else," Mac Manus said. "And we have a choice — whether we just accept whatever happens, or that we really guide and shape that and create the Madison Street of the future that we all want."

Oak Park hired Mac Manus' firm, Altamanu, back in November, at a cost of $100,000, to devise a plan for Madison between Harlem and Austin. The village has a tax increment financing (TIF) district along the stretch — with between $4 and $6 million in the fund — which needs to be allocated by the end of 2011, according to Village Planner Craig Failor.

Altamanu has held several meetings since November, Mac Manus said, with business owners and neighborhood groups, trying to figure out the right recipe for Madison. Two concepts they're focusing on are a "road diet" (eliminating or narrowing lanes) and "complete streets" (i.e. making the roadway usable by cars, bikes and pedestrians).

About 25 percent of cars traveling down Madison go straight through without stopping, Mac Manus said. He hopes fewer lanes will cause cars to slow down and possibly look closer at Oak Park businesses.

"If your idea of Madison Street is to get from Austin to Harlem as quickly as possible, you're not stopping to spend any money in Oak Park," Mac Manus said. "You're not helping local businesses. We've found that slowing down traffic allows people to get to know the streets and retailers and see things they might want."

Oak Park plans to host a community meeting on May 11 at Julian Middle School, 416 S. Ridgeland, to give residents a chance to respond to the plan. Another meeting will likely follow, too, in June. Failor was unsure as to when the village board would discuss the plan or how much the project might cost since Altamanu is still shaping it.

Gary Balling — head of the Park District of Oak Park and member of the Madison Street Coalition — said he's enthusiastic to see some of the ideas being suggested for the street.

"I think it can be a positive thing, but everyone's going to have to open their minds up and really think about what's best for Madison," he said.

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epic lulz  

Posted: May 3rd, 2011 8:49 PM

"The consultants also mentioned how much they liked Peterson's ice cream!" I only eat icecream when I get paid for it.

OP Resident  

Posted: April 26th, 2011 11:10 AM

How about creating an outdoor pedestrian mall for Madison Street? I can see shoppers strolling from Austin to Harlem. This could also give new life to Tom Barwin's super idea of Oak Park having it's own trolley car system.

OP  

Posted: April 26th, 2011 10:53 AM

Not this OP. Sorry.

john murtagh from oak park  

Posted: April 26th, 2011 12:15 AM

OP, do you remember making this statement" "But they will create an environment conducive to evolutionary progress and not revolutionary destruction."

OP  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 10:50 PM

john, we have minutes and comments RIGHT Here. Thank God for the WJ. john, your saving Oak Park from the brink. What would we do...What would we do???

john murtagh from oak park  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 6:42 PM

To: OP Guy re Mad Ave Devel, OPHA hearing and my statement: "When the publics turn came, the sponsors advised that no questions could not be asked. 50 people made comments anyway. For what purpose? There were no minutes or report. It was a sham!" Of course I checked for minutes. I was not the least bit surprised that they were not on the OPHA site. I was not surprised. Try finding Council of Gov't minutes some day the Madison Corridor minutes. OP doesn't do many minutes. It too revealing.

OP Guy from Oak Park  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 2:06 PM

Agreed. There will always be some questionable contract that is regretted. However, I do think engaging the stakeholders and public on a project early is an excellent way to communicate needs and impacts (safety, lighting, costs, maintenance, etc.) especially if these issues are addressed.

OP Guy from Oak Park  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 2:01 PM

There are places for "no-bid work". Some of these tend to deal with continuing contracts that have proven or successful contractors whose work satisfies the client. There are other "no-bid" contracts, such as professional services in which you may not want the lowest cost (i.e. a structural engineer to build a bridge). You may not want someone that has little experience or doesn't show enough effort in the bid. However, these no-bids are usually competitive in that other firms submit on it.

OP Resident  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 1:59 PM

I've enjoyed our debate/discussion but feel we've reached a point of diminishing returns. I'm all for a progressive approach to economic development. The board's addiction to consultants worries me. Hopefully, you will post reports on this forum in the future and share your thoughts about the public meetings you attend. See ya!

OP Guy from Oak Park  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 1:50 PM

OP Resident, hopefully these "experts" can do basic math. The point of the article was to say that the Madison Corridor is going to be improved and that the public can shape that by attending the meeting. The Village is going to be active about this vital corridor. Instead of implying that the planners are incompetent, look at what they are suggesting. And you cannot say anything until you see it. And if you complain about the Village initiating a study-you come off a naysayer and paranoid.

OP Resident  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 1:44 PM

OP Guy, make sure you have a spotter when you attempt such a wild leap. I trust and respect many of the people who work at Village Hall. But too many slick moves cause me concern. Here's another example: A $250K contract for computer consulting services was "no-bid" and went to a firm with no proven experience or track record. The firm was recommended to the trustees by Oak Park's CFO. Only later did he admit that he knew the owner thru his wife and she belong to a book club with this "expert"

OP Guy from Oak Park  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 1:09 PM

OP Resident, why are you asking me for this info if you already have it? Murtaghs, constructive comments aren't asking for a list of "angels" either. I can point you in the direction of a few devil's advocates though. James Madison also said, "The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted." So let's not trust anyone who is a civil servant (Fire, Police, Doctors, Planners, Engineers, etc.)? Just go to the meeting and see! You are right, who doesn't like Peterson's ice cream

OP Resident  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 12:51 PM

I figured you would have a problem coming up with a dollar amount, OP Guy. It is staggering how much the Village Board has doled out to "experts". Here's an example: A $65K "no-bid" contract went to an "expert" to see what the Village should do to improve Chicago Ave. between Marion and Harlem. Highlights of the study were that the area needed more signage, additional parking and a coffee shop inside the corner gas station. The consultants also mentioned how much they liked Peterson's ice cream!

OP Guy from Oak Park  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 12:36 PM

OP Resident, no I don't have the "Totals" for you, nor will I "concentrate" on it. You may find that info if you want. Regarding the Housing issue, sounds like john murtagh should inquire with the Housing Authority to find out minutes and results. But, until you attend these meetings and engage the staff and inquire, you will just be hearing things through a story and posting frustrations on the comments section and making generalizations and complaining w/o knowing what you are talking about.

john murtagh from oak park  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 12:34 PM

For OP - James Madison said: "If men (and women) were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary." WOULD YOU PLEASE SEND US YOUR LIST OF ANGELS IN OAK PARK GOVERNMENT?

Patricia Murtagh O'Shea  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 12:25 PM

Another constructive comment from OP. Yay!

OP  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 11:38 AM

Why should we even hire/elect people to "run" our Village. We could just run it with all these fine folks right HERE on the WJ comment section. All the answers seem to be right here. Genius!

OP Resident  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 11:03 AM

Math is not one of my strengths, OP Guy. So, do you have the totals for us on the amount Oak Park doled out for consulting services and "no-bid" contracts. Concentrate on the last decade. While we're waiting, what's your response/explanation to the posting by John Murtagh regarding the Public Hearing last November? The citizen involvement you tout didn't seem to apply at that forum.

OP Guy from Oak Park  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 10:47 AM

OP Resident, please check your own math before you speak about another's--$100 x 1,000 = $100,000. Since there is one bad contract, do we say no more contracts in general? Terrible logic. Plus this is a contract that you see results, ideas, studies, options, responses as opposed to a hidden contract. This has a public meeting involved. Would you like OP to have hired staff to do this work and then lay them off when it is not needed any more or to hang on to the pensions needed for these jobs?

OP Resident  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 10:18 AM

Crunch those numbers again, OP Guy. Do you really think this firm billed Oak Park at an hourly rate of $10?! Not a chance. Regarding consultant fees, do you have the figures in front of you? Tell us how much Oak Park spent 2001-2010 on consultant contracts? And how many were "no-bid" deals? Taxpayers are being gamed by this type of patronage. Village Manager Barwin worked the system and we ended being charged $250K on a "no-bid" contract for a computer consultant. That was a real stinker.

OP Guy from Oak Park  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 10:03 AM

The Chief Planner should not be working on the details of a large study/plan. $100K is relatively small in terms of the total cost of the improvement. He does not have time to do renderings and put together multiple options. This $100K is probably 1,000 hours of manpower that he does not have put towards this project. It is called delegating a project where he is the Project Manager. Unless you'd like a bigger staff for him, this works well. And yes, you need to pay for services like this.

OP Resident  

Posted: April 25th, 2011 12:48 AM

OP Guy meet John Murtagh. This is the type of info that is regularly posted here. I learned a lot about District 97 & school financing by reading many comments offered as part of the public debate. This Madison St. project sees the trustees coming up with $100K for a planning consultant instead of assigning the task to the Chief Planner Craig Failor. He's got an office at Village Hall! Repair streets, alleys, sidewalks & curbs in our neighborhoods before spending more tax dollars on "dreams".

john murtagh from oak park  

Posted: April 24th, 2011 11:28 PM

In November, that the Madison Avenue Housing Development Public Hearing, required by law, was held by Interfaith and the Oak Park Housing Authority. The two hour meeting opened with one hour of a "sales" presentation by the sponsors. They marched up about six members of their team to praise the project. When it the publics turn came, the sponsors advised that no questions could not be asked. 50 people made comments anyway. For what purpose? There were no minutes or report. It was a sham!

OP Resident  

Posted: April 24th, 2011 10:03 PM

I wonder if there is any other way for a resident to ask a question or express a concern? People are now using a variety of ways to communicate. Airing the meetings live on TV6 would better serve the public than the fluff now being aired. How much of our limited tax dollars are spent to produce those silly cooking demonstations? What a waste! I watch the board's budget hearings & can see how the trustees prioritize the community's needs. TV6 is underused by all of the local taxing bodies.

OP Guy from Oak Park  

Posted: April 24th, 2011 9:31 PM

I am not saying attend the Board meetings. I am saying attend the project specific public meeting where all that is talked about is that specific project. You get to speak and engage formally and informally the consultant and staff. You get to look at the ideas to date and the residents and stakeholders discuss their concerns. If nobody attends, the concerns are not noted. The reports do not document this forum, but the document the attendees' concerns. The intent and limitations are discussed.

OP Resident  

Posted: April 24th, 2011 8:44 PM

It's good that OP Guy has toned his rhetoric. No sense in going back and forth about his demand that people go to board meetings. That just doesn't work for everyone. And I still cannot accept his charge of "pettiness" regarding comments posted on this forum. Discussions have been informative and spirited. Obviously, many of us enjoy sharing our thoughts and opinions. But it's not everyone's cup of tea. Some prefer wearing 1776 costumes and holding up signs calling President Obama a marxist.

op fan  

Posted: April 24th, 2011 3:45 AM

So all the through-traffic will divert onto the residential streets when they are slowed down to half speed and the Madison Avenue shoppers will be in traffic jams trying to get there to do business?? And, OMG, ANOTHER $100,000 consultant tooting his own horn. I'm sick of the board and the village manager always using these paid outside voices to tout how great all these less than brilliant or even thought-through ideas are.Chicago has the worst traffic in the country.Narrow the streets?

OP Guy from Oak Park  

Posted: April 24th, 2011 12:40 AM

Hey, OP Resident, it's called planning ahead to attend a public meeting (babysitter) And really, physically unable to get around town? The intent of this plan is to make the Madison corridor more pedestrian friendly and more walkable and more ADA compliant. Pettiness is the chatter about the ideas that people are so quick to put down when they don't know what they are even discussing. All I am saying is: if you are passionate about this project, go to the meeting and engage it.

OP Resident  

Posted: April 22nd, 2011 11:13 PM

Hey, OP Guy! Please check your "I've Got An Answer for Everything" book & explain how someone who works evenings or has family demands can attend Village Board meetings? What's the appropriate response to someone who may be physically unable to make the "walk" you demand from them. If people complain or raise a concern, you charge them with pettiness. That's rather harsh. Did you pick that up from Beck or Limbaugh? You should report the person who is forcing you to read our posts. That's cruel.

john murtagh from oak park  

Posted: April 22nd, 2011 10:46 PM

"Madison Street is becoming something else, and we have a choice %u2014 whether we just accept whatever happens, or that we really guide and shape that and create the Madison Street of the future that we all want." That quote came from John Mac Manus, a land planner hired by the village last year. Do we really pay planner to create a plan vision like McManus's quote. The vision is as clear as mud! Will someone please tell us who is orchestrating the Madison Follies?

Patricia O'Shea  

Posted: April 17th, 2011 10:14 PM

J, I think the concern is in those of us that hope that the street won't always be lined with open storefronts and empty lots. You have to build parking in order to have successful business - even in the green world the Village Board wants to build. (I'm all for green - just built my backyard garden today!..but smart green)

J.oak park  

Posted: April 14th, 2011 11:14 AM

I am confused about the concern for parking on Madison. Which part? I parked on the street in front of Walgreen's yesterday, no problem. I always get a parking spot in front of Mama Thia during the lunch hour. When ever I go to radio shack, limited times admittedly, I park right in front of the store. That said the idea of restricting Madison to two lanes seems undesirable. Think Roosevelt Rd. what a nightmare that is to drive as two lanes, and is the most reasonable comparison for OP.

OP Guy from Oak Park  

Posted: April 14th, 2011 11:08 AM

Everyone, This is the planning portion. Concerns are raised and then addressed (i.e. parking, public transportation, walkability, safety, congestion, cut-thru traffic, etc.) However, they are not addressed in this forum. If you have a concern about something, speak up at the public meeting. The concern will be noted and responded to then or at a subsequent meeting. The forum here is just gossip and pettiness. Push away the computer, attend the meeting and "walk the walk" no pun intended.

john murtagh from oak park  

Posted: April 14th, 2011 11:03 AM

OP Guy If the Madison Ave Road Change Forum is anything like the Madison Avenue Housing Forum organized by the developer or the November 12, 2010 Board Meeting, I will skip attending. At the Developer's forum. Resident were allowed to speak but not ask questions of the developers. At the board meeting, the public was not even allowed to speak much less get answers. Will residents be able to speak at the Madison Road Change Forum? Will they be allowed to ask questions? Will they get replies?

john murtagh from oak park  

Posted: April 14th, 2011 10:55 AM

OP GUY With two lanes and limited parking, how often would you be able to get through Madison's timed light when you have to stop to let people park? Try driving west of Harlem at rush hour. It a great test of your automated lights/speed limit rationale.

OakParkerNotForLong from Oak Park  

Posted: April 14th, 2011 10:36 AM

I would wager that the desk jockies who thought up this idea don't have to use Madison as a way to get from point A to point B like the majority of people who use Madison do. The reason I don't shop in that area is because there is never any parking...there is never anywhere to park even at Village Hall for crying out loud! This has got to be one of the lamest ideas I've ever heard of and I'm still ticked over the whole Marion St. Mall demolition...it was soooo unnecessary to do that!!!!

so what if I do take the bus? from Oak Park  

Posted: April 14th, 2011 10:09 AM

So if I want to be a pedestrian and not use my car, I could take the Madison Pace Bus #320. But it does not run on Saturday or Sunday. Any coordination with Pace to increase service after they remove 2 lanes? As for infrastructure, the brick crosswalk in front of the Lake Theatre looks horrible. It is patched with blobs of asphalt. Why not maintain what is already here? And get a powerwasher for the Lake Street sidewalks while you're at it.

Marco  

Posted: April 14th, 2011 8:05 AM

In response to the parking issue for the comcast proposal, the commission said it would force the tennants to use public transportation. Maybe the village wants to force you as well to use public transpotation and forgo your big suvs.

OP Guy from Oak Park  

Posted: April 14th, 2011 12:56 AM

Wow. Looks like there will be a good crowd at the public meeting because I am sure everyone who is complaining will want to find out more about the proposed project. Or do all of of the complainers just like to sit and complain? How about you attend the meeting, ask your sarcastic questions and see what type of response you will get. How fast do you want to go in town? The traffic signals are set so if you go the speed limit, you make it through from one end to the other with maybe one red light

Ottalie  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 8:31 PM

This has to be some of the most backwards logic I've ever heard. I see the need to attract new business and development to Madison, but I think there are plenty of ways to do that without narrowing an important OP traffic artery. I live right off Madison, which I take to get to 290 every day on my commute. This really makes me cringe. How is sitting in traffic on Madison going to make me want to stop and shop?

Dave from Oak Park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 5:35 PM

Hilarious. When OP last spent 6 figures plus for a Madison plan, Village traffic experts said no way could Madison be cut to 2 lanes. Never got a real answer - either state route funding or it's an emergency route in case the Ike shuts down. We're spending 6 figures again for another plan. What was wrong with the old one? Oh, that didn't include low income housing. Nice cover up, Village Board. You can't attract development here without warehousing the poor on fed give aways. Shameful.

Bruce  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 2:37 PM

Hey 290guy - a coworker has recently seen that guy (I refer to him as David Crosby) at the off-ramps of Rt55 @ Cicero Ave, near Midway.

OP Resident  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 2:12 PM

OP Lifer scores a bullseye with the comment about fixing our streets,alleys, curbs and sidewalks. Oak Park has neglected infrastructure repairs in the neighborhoods for too long. The trustees claim there's no money but somehow there are always plenty of dollars to fund fund their pet projects and the latest boondoggle. I'll bet the Public Works Department has a report card for the Village that shows failing grades in most of these areas. Let's see it!

john murtagh from oak park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 12:48 PM

A Madison Follies Option - Made sidewalks on Madison a bikeway. Pedestrians can use side streets. It's a common sense solution. There are hardly an pedestrians on Madison. Clue: there are very few thriving business there and they all have parking lots.

Live on Washington from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 12:36 PM

I guess the contractors don't work after 5PM. It can already take 20 minutes to go from Lombard to Harlem on Madison at 6PM. What's another added 20 minutes commute going to hurt anyway? And it certainly won't push more traffic to Jackson and Washington. Sounds like a wonderful plan...

290guy  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 11:56 AM

Had anyone seen that guy with the crooked neck on harlem ramp on 290 lately?

OP Lifer  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 11:50 AM

I think we should worry first about fixing the Potholes. Op is like a third world country and is the least bike friendly city I have ever visited. I wish we could forget about race for a year and spend the money on fixing the infrastructure instead of helping some third generation welefare recipient get court mandated counselling

Eduardo from Oak Park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 11:50 AM

Last time I went business shopping on Madison I received a parking ticket at 7 pm on a weekday. Needless to say I don't shop on Madison much anymore. How about we address the parking issue first? I am sure businesses on Madison would receive more benefit by providing their customers with parking than with the ideas in this proposal.

paul  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 11:33 AM

I like this idea very much. Oak Park needs to be more pedestrian and bicycle friendly. Lake is awful, the Marion St mall was demolished... I hope that they'll also take measures to encourage small, non-chain businesses to set up shop on Madison (and in Oak Park generally). Shopping locally isn't about where the store is, it's about where your money ends up and the kind of business practices you want to support. Madison St is very nice in Forest Park, it's about time Oak Park catches up.

MichaelO from Oak Park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 11:23 AM

I've devised a different plan for Madison. I say we scrap the two lane "diet" and just Cap the Madison. In fact, let's cap all the Presidents. We can Cap the Ike, Cap the Washington, Cap the Adams, Cap the Jackson... How about that?

kathleen from OP  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 11:16 AM

As usual, we pay big bucks for yet another Madison redevelopment plan offering less than stellar ideas. What exactly was wrong with the earlier plans? Why aren't we working harder at attracting business on Madison? Instead we pander to any developer who comes along who requires zoning variances and taxpayer funding (ie., Comcast) whether it's good for OP or not. Show us the influx of new business before messing with car lanes, please. Show us you are being careful with our hard-earned dollars!

Alan from Oak Park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 10:32 AM

Wow I can just imagine the mess it will be at rush hour not to mention the problems during regular traffic hours. I am a bicyclist myself but I have the common sense to use side streets and not put my life in danger on a busy street such as Madison. This is definitely a situation where the needs of the few DO NOT out weigh the needs of the many. This is a very bad idea.

Brian Murphy from Oak park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 10:07 AM

This is a great idea. It's time for Madison to start attracting businesses. Our focus should not be on making it easy for people to drive from one side of town to the other, rather, make it so you don't have to drive to the other side of town as frequently because what you need is right there on Madison. Let's do this. (full disclosure: I live 100 yards from Madison.)

Resident from Oak Park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 10:04 AM

I agree with Kyle.

Kyle  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 10:02 AM

How about we work on the speeding and pedestrian safety on Washington (a residential street) and keep Madison as a major commercial thru street? What Madison needs is attention as a business district. Forget worrying about traffic and start worrying about getting stores...people will stay to shop and dine if the Village encourages new commercial opportunities.

Resident from Oak Park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 10:01 AM

I am totally for improving Madison, I'm just saying that traffic flow is extremely important in that area. And to pretend it isn't, is going to cause problems on the side streets.I would like for Madison to be as nice as Forest Park's strip. That area has changed immensely. However, the "downtown" feel in Forest Park was already there--OP's Madison does not have that sort of setup.

Resident from Oak Park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 9:58 AM

Sometimes people need to drive to get somewhere.Making Madison less accessible to through traffic will push more traffic onto the side streets.There are already many people who take FAST shortcuts through the side streets.OP in the past 10-15 yrs has become noticeably more difficult to walk through and drive through.And the idea that this is a bike friendly town is crazy.I used to bike and it is wisest to stay on quiet side streets.Madison is a major street for cars to & from the city or exits.

OP Resident  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 9:47 AM

I'm sure Ray Johnson will be able to answer a question or two about this project. Was there an open and competitive bidding process for the $100K contract? How many bids were received? Why was the Mac Manus firm selected?

Chris Donovan from Oak Park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 9:31 AM

Really? The Village gave someone $100 k whose advice is "build it and they will stop to shop"? Isn't Madison a major arterial street intended for that kind of traffic? I guess that the Village wants to change the character of Madison in order only to spend the TIF money. Heaven forbid that they just dispurse it to the schools rather than waste it on window-dressing.

Marco  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 9:21 AM

A great idea. What would be better is to include angled parking. That would triple the spaces an relieve the residential streets. This would also be beneficial for new buisnesses with easy access parking in front. Then you can finally cross the street in your car without holding your breath.

Amused from Oak Park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 8:54 AM

Hey! Why not make the entire street into an outdoor mall with heated sidewalks, build a new library, install expensive "mall district" signs and hand Whiteco a block or two for another Soviet style eyesore or at least a replica of the Colt Building? Who dreams up this stuff?

Scott Dawson from Oak Park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 8:42 AM

Dumb.....simply dumb. As dumb as the Marion St redo a couple years ago that allowed traffic from North Blvd to Lake St. There was no need for that, and there is no need to make Madison narrow.

Gridlock  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 6:56 AM

What a horrible idea. Not everyone works in town, some of us need to get to I-290 so we can get to our jobs so we can pay high taxes. This will force more traffic to the side streets.

john murtagh from oak park  

Posted: April 13th, 2011 1:45 AM

Is this Madison Follies or what. First we put public housing in the commercial district. Then we landscape the Avenue at a cost of 1M or so. Then we are going to tear up the streets. Then we will attract the businesses. I guess this will all be followed by widening Washington and Jackson Boulevards. The residual traffic has to go somewhere. Somehow this all sounds like the plan is backwards.

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