Gun gap: personal vs. community values

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In terms of gun control, I think what separates the rights and responsibilities groups is the difference between personal values and community values. Some of us would be perfectly willing to give up some things if it benefited the whole community. On the other side are those who feel that, once they get theirs, others should be left to fend for themselves.

Bill Dring

Oak Park

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Bill Doogan  

Posted: December 20th, 2013 10:09 AM

LDL- good question, who's a cop? "If an officer of a law enforcement agency initiates an investigative stop" Does not say the "officer" has to be in uniform. By the time you figure that one out, you can be dead. John Gacy would have loved DTI. An investigative stop is anything a cop says it is, or says happened after the fact. Especially if the cop is off duty. It's not a crime in IL for cops to delete the video/audio, if any exists.

LDL from Oak Park  

Posted: December 19th, 2013 1:31 PM

Bill Doogan: Since there is only a duty to inform during an investigative stop, presumably you've already conceded that the person questioning you is a cop--otherwise you probably wouldn't be answering his questions. Nobody--police or otherwise--can ask everybody walking down the street whether he or she is carrying. DTI is only in the context of an investigative questioning

LDL from Oak Park  

Posted: December 19th, 2013 1:28 PM

Right you are, Bill Dring. Why don't we all give up alcohol? And cars (they pollute and cause accidents, right?)? And swimming pools (is enjoying yourself in your back yard really worth the chance of somebody drowning?)? I mean, if it's for the benefit of the whole community and all, you shouldn't mind giving up some things you might enjoy.

Bill Doogan  

Posted: December 19th, 2013 1:06 PM

NRA lobbyist Todd Vandermyde is totally willing to give up the rights of gun owners to police impersonators & serial killers. He cut a deal w/ the anti-gun Chiefs of Police to place Duty to Inform w/ criminal penalties in Phelps HB183 carry bill. With no requirement that the "officer" be in uniform on on duty when they question an armed citizen, it's the cops word against the citizen. John Gacy w/ his sheriffs badge would have loved DTI. The NRA lobbyist loves to give up rights, talk to him.

OP Transplant  

Posted: December 18th, 2013 12:02 PM

Mr. Dring-If doing what benefits the community entails giving up rights guaranteed by the Constitution, citizens have a right to disagree. This seems obvious to me, and I'm not a gun owner.

OP Resident # 545 from Oak Park  

Posted: December 17th, 2013 10:33 PM

Wow, Mr. Dring....there is an open-minded, enlightened viewpoint! Clearly, you've completely missed the point. No wonder we can't get anywhere.

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