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Before we get too far down the "if you say it enough times, it must be true" path, let me state that I do not want any "grand bargain" to save us from the "fiscal cliff." President Obama campaigned heavily on the fact that the bailout of the auto industry saved jobs. And voters responded. That was a stimulus to the economy and it paid off. People continued to receive paychecks and their money went into our economy.

What's going to bring our economy around is employment. Taxes were cut during the Bush era and that didn't lead to job creation. What we need is more stimuli. We need more people back at work in jobs that pay well and benefit our society.

We had an infrastructure that was a model for the world. No longer. We have school buildings and hospitals that are in disrepair. A large part of the eastern seaboard was recently demolished. Since the tax cuts haven't led to job creation, let's have the federal government stimulate the economy through job creation. Put dollars into the hands of the unemployed so they, in turn, can spend and save that money. That will move our economy forward.

My advice to the President and the rest of our elected officials is that focusing on some bargain to raise income, while cutting expenses is the wrong approach. To stop foreclosures and end unemployment, to fight poverty, will require letting the tax cuts for the wealthiest among us expire. We will need to tax financial transactions. We will need to cut the outrageous military budget. We will need a jobs program.

We should not look to cut Social Security benefits. We should not look to cut Medicare or Medicaid. We should expand Obamacare to be single-payer health care, and we should have the federal government bargain with the pharmaceutical industry to achieve favorable pricing.

At some point, we will need to deal with the deficit. But now is not the time. We need to get people back to work at jobs that pay well and benefit our society: green energy sources; improved public transportation; adapting to climate change; rebuilding our infrastructure.

An economy that benefits only Wall Street and the financier class is the result of our serving the economy and not the economy serving us.

Tom Broderick

Co-chair, Greater Oak Park Democratic Socialists of America

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Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: December 14th, 2012 1:10 AM

@Michael I am confused - for 8 years we listened to you snipe about GWB and no one told you to sit down and be quiet. Now the shoe is on the other foot and your thin skin is showing. Defend Obama if you like but, please do it with facts and figures. Your problem is that he lies to you just as much as he lies to me. We are about to see a four year attack on our way of life, if you lose your job because of obamacare do not look to anyone but your self to blame.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: December 11th, 2012 8:55 PM

@ Michael - we are the loyal opposition and we are the only ones who will question the president. He could put the Bengahzi situation behind us if he would tell us a believable story. He won't because he can't. The campaign narrative was more important than manning up to the truth that 4 men are dead because of some trumped up story. You defend the man without reasonable explanation of what happened and why. The election is over and your guy won - what you and he fails to understand is that he is the president of all of the US citizens and the idea of punishing us for holding an opposing view is just un-American.

MichaelO from Oak Park  

Posted: December 11th, 2012 5:15 PM

Ray, for crying out loud... take it like a man. Your boy lost. All the conspiracy theories in the world aren't going to change that.

Uncommon Sense  

Posted: December 11th, 2012 3:26 PM

Dylan, our embassy is attacked and you want to believe it is like any other contractor/military skirmish??? Seriously??? Second, you have no idea my feelings on the violence on the west and southsides. It pains me as I am black. However, I also woke up and recognized how do gooder liberal policies contribute to the third world toilet situation in those areas.

Dylan Bellisle from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: December 11th, 2012 2:49 PM

Uncommon and Ray, I would encourage you both to try to have a larger diversity of where you get your information and media from.... you are both sounding like conspiracy theorist like Glenn Beck. As Tom Ricks brought up in his one minute interview before he was rushed off Fox News... How many defense contractors and other American citizens have been killed over there and elsewhere. We don't because no one cares. Tom was not challenged while he was on Fox News, because he was speaking the truth. The truth of the fact that the ONLY reason that Fox News has created it into such an issue is because it operates as an arm of the Republican party, and is able to report "news" in a way that convolutes facts with opinions and theories with no basis. I would encourage both you of you"take of the blinders" and see that no President is apathetic to the death of innocent Americans. If you truly believe that the President and others within his Administration did not care and was seeking to "aide and comfort" then you are living in an alternative reality that doesn't exist. Uncommon Sense - hundreds of our fellow citizens have been killed in Chicago. Do you scream out for justice for them? Or do you just focus on deaths that aide your dislike and hatred of our Current President? Truth is that President Obama was reelected by a margin of 4 million votes. Thats a lot. If the incident in Benghazi was as you said it was then more people would have been convinced of his and his administration's incompetence. But they weren't, because they see there is a shared blame, and also see through the unfounded theories espoused by Fox News. You can reply, but I am done with this conversation.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: December 11th, 2012 1:28 PM

@Dylan - some of us believe that Benghazi could end the Obama presidency. If the White House was watching the attack in real time and the president refused to send help to those 4 Americans - that is siding with the attackers and that is "giving aide and comfort" which is treason. High crimes is a bad thing and I think mr Obama understands that. Hillary knows what happened and is shielding the president for political gain. Bill will tell all if it protects the Hillary '16 campaign. This whole situation stinks. FOX is the only network that is not protecting the president and they understand how serious this situation is. There are just to many variations of the story for it all to be as innocent as you seem to believe. The bottom line is you have four dead Americans and no reasonable story to explain the administrations lack of actions. The only one in jail, so far, is the poor schmuck who made a dumb video.

Uncommon Sense  

Posted: December 11th, 2012 12:03 PM

Dylan, the bias is that other networks have refused to ask the hard questions on Benghazi. It is an obvious cover up. Four Americans are dead and we are supposed to just ignore it and let slide the obvious misinformation coming out of the White House about some stupid youtube video??? Take off the blinders...

Dylan Bellisle from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: December 11th, 2012 11:25 AM

Ray, What I was responding to was Uncommon's comment. You don't have to have insurance if you have a gun though. And ownership requirements are different in every state. Throughout the nation we have a pretty uniform policy of how you can own a car and legally drive it. And I am guessing that level of security in the Bahamas was created all under President Obama? Of course not. That is the issue. There are many people to blame for every issue. Its politics when you say its all one person's fault. Again, the fact remains that the families of those killed in Benghazi have asked for the politicalization to stop. The family of Jovan has not. That is disrespectful of the family's wishes. Also, is the media still talking about Jovan's death? Barely. But Fox News is STILL on Benghazi. Is the media still talking daily about the unacceptable number of murders in Chicago? No, but Fox News is STILL on Benghazi. This is what lead Tom Ricks to say what he said on Fox News. No other network hammered on that incident more than Fox News. If you are unwilling and unable to see that bias then that is unfortunate.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbUz3pIPmTY

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: December 10th, 2012 3:14 PM

@ Dylan - Gun ownership IS regulated. FOID, background checks, waiting periods. All of these are requirements to purchase a firearm. The people you anguish over don't live by the rules or give a tinkers damn about laws that prohibit felons or mentally ill people from owning or using guns. The laws are there - just not enforced to the limit. I understand that the house proposed reductions in security was in growth of budget. I understand that the embassy in the Bahamas has enough security to protect Libya - just a nicer assignment - lousy asset distribution.

Dylan Bellisle from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: December 10th, 2012 10:13 AM

Ray, You never answered my question. Did you also question the incompetence of legislators who disregarded the administrations requests for more funding for embassy security? If not, then you are hypocritical too.

Dylan Bellisle from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: December 10th, 2012 10:11 AM

Uncommon sense, We license people to drive. You have to take a test, and if you do not abide by the rules of the road you will eventually be identified. AND, you have to have insurance so if you do hurt someone there is compensation. So if you are advocating for gun-ownership to be regulated like car ownership and driving, then proceed.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: December 8th, 2012 11:27 AM

Dylan - again we are talking about hypocrisy! If you choose to ignore the facts of an event and use the feelings of the family as an excuse - be consistent! If you are covering a political embarrassment by using the families feelings for an excuse that is criminal. I see the problem as one of political expediency and our current administration is willing to throw anyone under the bus to save their own scrawny skins. I understand there were a couple of promises made by Obama before the election to Bill Clinton, to assure his support and campaigning. Bubba wanted a voice in the selection of the DNC chair and Obama was to support Hillary for the 2016 cycle. A week after the election Obama went back on both of those promises. Bill Clinton is not one to trifle with and Jerret and Axelrod should know that.

Uncommon sense  

Posted: December 7th, 2012 2:04 PM

Dylan, guns had as much to do with Jovan going nuts as a car does with someone choosing to drive drunk.

Dylan Bellisle from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: December 7th, 2012 1:51 PM

Ray, You allow your politics and listening of conservative radio cloud your thinking. Explain the insensitivity of recognizing that this nation has a serious gun problem, and that is a contributing factor to Jovan's suicide. its no different than the organization MADD. Mothers who came together upset about what happened to their children, and choose to take the issue into the public sphere. The families of those killed in Benghazi have asked for those who continue to politicalize it to stop. The family of Jovan has not. So how is there even an equivalence? There isn't. Benghazi was an isolated incident, not evidence of wide negligence of our Foreign Policy leaders. Jovan's death in indicative of the gun violence epidemic we have here in the US. You say you "questioned Libya foreign policy incompetence before the election." Did you also question the incompetence of legislators who disregarded the administrations requests for more funding for embassy security? No? Didn't think so...

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: December 5th, 2012 5:44 PM

@Dylan - the point was the hypocrisy! If you take a position of caring about the family in the first situation you should take the same in the latter. You are taking the "Greater Good" justification which is dishonest. I was questioning Libya foreign policy incompetence before the election and was accused of being insensitive to the families of the victims in Benghazi. Why is the Costas narrative any different? The KC player was suffering from mental/violence problems that should have denied

Dylan  

Posted: December 5th, 2012 1:09 PM

Ray, The difference is that gun-violence is a reoccurring trend. Benghazi was an isolated event. 100s of times more people were killed in Chicago this year than in that attack. Why are not Republicans calling for more security in Chicago?

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: December 3rd, 2012 1:39 PM

@ Liberal Left at-all Your hypocrisy is showing! Those of us who questioned the administrations handling of Benghazi were accused of heartless insensitivity toward the families of the murdered diplomats. Last night on Sunday Night Football Bob Costas used prime time commercial time commentary to use the KC players murder suicide to press a political gun control agenda. Not one worry about the feelings of the families here - after all it is for the greater good. Hypocrites!!!

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: December 3rd, 2012 10:21 AM

@ Liberal Left at-all

Deborah from Leesburg  

Posted: November 30th, 2012 7:38 PM

That's funny....The Gov't make jobs. Only for the rich...you can not get hired by the Govt if you have a blemish on your credit. Yet they are trying to help the hard working middle class by posting more Gov't jobs only the rich can pass the securit

rj  

Posted: November 29th, 2012 11:55 AM

Rasmussen today - 24% socialism / 68% capitalism. There's that 28% + ignorant vote that didn't know what they were voting for or maybe they did & just want capitalism to keep providing for them. Let's hope it's the former.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 29th, 2012 8:02 AM

@Tom - you might read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeschooling#Test_results before you slander homeschooling. Test results 30% to 37% higher and absolutely no racial differences. That is a statistic that should embarrass the hell out of union teachers. You are finding amusement in wrongly attacking people with incorrect data that you throw out as unchallenged fact. I can only assume that you were not home-schooled.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 29th, 2012 7:42 AM

@Tom - The shortcut was unfortunate and you know I have used Democratic correctly in the past. You find fault with my syntax but totally fail to defend the position. Or can it be that using females, for political gain, is a position only you can take? The Republicans do take women seriously by including them in the greater population and not seeking to break them out as a oppressed minority. A position that should be repugnant to everyone - you included.

Unfortunately  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 6:24 PM

Tom, to put it another way, while the millions of Hispanics are great for Obama and Dem politicians right now - do you not see the role that these immigrants have had in the gutting of "living wage" jobs of the bottom half of US citizens?

Unfortunately  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 6:17 PM

Tom, I am concerned with the future. Because of the "divide/conquer" electoral strategy that was successful for Obama. You're not concerned that private sector union jobs are being eliminated by immigrants? E pluribus Unum is NOT what Obama wants!

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 6:16 PM

So in addition to being wholly ignorant of current events, Ray is also grammar-challenged. The adjectival of the proper noun "Democrat" is "Democratic." Ray, I can only assume that you were home schooled.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 5:53 PM

@ TOM - it seems to me the Democrat convention was a whole bunch of women exposing their privates for all to see. I sure would be proud of that presentation.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 5:50 PM

@JMK - NASA could be considered a stimulus program that worked. Out of that program we got cordless power tools, power cells, aircraft materials development. Government offered the opportunity and private enterprise made it work. The technology of the 20 year old space shuttle was in fact 20 years old - a government system. A modern airliner of the same vintage has been upgraded and retrofitted to be state of the art. That is what private business does to stay competitive. Uncle Sam sees no need to be competitive.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 5:48 PM

Unfortunately, you are right, the current GOP electoral strategy is sure to work next time. Please keep telling Hispanics to self-deport and keep demanding the right to poke into women's privates.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 5:39 PM

@JMK - In the long run we all die! Stimulus might work for a very short time if it is applied in a business friendly way. Get the pump primed and get out of the way. Our current administration believes in redistribution and is using handouts and goodies to accomplish that end. The very rich got that way by being smarter than the rest of us. Absolute equal redistribution of all wealth will last a couple of months and then those very same former rich people will figure out the system and wind up richer than before. Money in your pocket never relates to wisdom. Foolish before - poor again.

John Maynard Keynes from The Long Run  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 4:35 PM

Mr. Broderick, Tom,PF: I must apologize. I've discovered in the long run my economic theories are completely wrong. Stimulus by Govt doesn't create jobs. In fact, it kills jobs. In the long run we're all dead. Open your mind to reality. Sorry, JMK

FLAVA FLAV  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 3:42 PM

SPEND IT LIKE YOU PRINT IT BABY!

Unfortunately  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 3:38 PM

Tom, your comment about "the GOP is in fact just angry old white men" is another lie. In truth, Romney won white voters of all ages and genders - including 18-29 and college educated: http://www.people-press.org/files/2012/11/11-21-12-3.png.

rj  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 3:03 PM

Tom why don't you and the socialists of greater OP, which I'm sure are plentiful, set up a commune in Cuba or Venezuela & we will be put out of our misery. Hasta la vista. Do keep in touch - send us a postcard. Let us know how you're all doing.

Tom from River Forest 708 334-3476  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 2:32 PM

According to exit polling, the GOP is in fact just angry old white men. Just keep believing everything you hear on Fox and Rush and your party will soon be out of its (and our) misery.

rj  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 2:14 PM

OP Resident-You are so right. But when Tom thinks he's doing his "civic duty" to spread the propaganda of socialism I can't sit back. They would like to think we're all old, angry white guys but they're so wrong.....about everything.

OP Resident # 545 from Oak Park  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 12:04 PM

rj, it does no good to engage "useful idiots" like Tom & PF. They're unthinking tools of the left, who do nothing but spew lies & DNC talking points. They always invoke the same bogeymen; Fox, Rush, etc. because they're incapable of thought.

rj  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 11:25 AM

Tom - Complete? Completely vacuous at that. You need to be re-programmed.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 11:12 AM

At least I write in complete sentences rj.

rj  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 11:09 AM

Tom NobamaCare offers nothing but equalized misery. Mental health care you certainly wouldn't need- you've been lobotomized somewhere along the way-an obamabot.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 10:55 AM

rj, checking once again from the edge of reality. It is going to be a really tough 4 years for you huh rj? Good thing the ACA covers mental care.

rj  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 10:51 AM

Tom- The way of the Whigs? Maybe the country the way of Cuba. Constitution vs Manifesto. Sorry but you are one hopelessly brainwashed dude. Some of us & more than you realize are just not going that route. The ignorant will wake up soon-NobamaCare.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 10:48 AM

Admit it Ray, you care about Benghazi for the same reason that you care about Fast and Furious. If either happened with a GOP president you would be absolutely silent. You are transparent Ray.

People First  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 10:47 AM

Ray Simpson's parrot act is so good there's really no need to tune in to Fox News. Ray mindlessly repeats word for word whatever misinformation and nonsense has been feed to him. Let's just hope he doesn't start watching the Home Shopping network.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 10:46 AM

As for Benghazi, why should I do your research here too given that you will ignore the truth about this as well and will just believe the gospel of Fox. Were you concerned with the 4 embassy attacks during the Bush admin? Why no questions then?

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 10:43 AM

Ray, you are really showing any unwillingness to challenge anything that Rush told you. They were never charged criminally. I implore you to research the issue if only to save you the embarrassment.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 9:59 AM

@Tom - There was and they did! Holder dropped the charges. Shabazz got probation - not a lawyer but my understanding that is not a civil penalty. Get off the racist charges because you know nothing of what you speak. Your guy won - now he is supposed to lead the country - all of the country not just your side. That is a part of being president. The last 4 years have given us little or no indication that he has any desire to pull the country together as a leader would. We are all about to get the country you desire and a lot of us are not willing to throw in the towel and give up. The questions about Libya seem directed toward Amb Rice and her delivery of a White House directed lie to the American people. The important questions are being ignored. Why was security withheld from the embassy? Who ignored the pleas for help as the attack unfolded? Why was the ambassador in Benghazi? Why was he meeting with the representative of Turkey - away from the secure embassy? These are the center of the story of the death of 4 Americans and we owe the truth to their families. Lying to us is politics. Not defending the embassy personnel is giving aide and comfort to the enemy and rises to "High Crimes"

Tom from River forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 9:03 AM

Or does that not count because it wasn't done by scary black guys? Your selective outrage is telling Ray.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 9:02 AM

Ray, if there was sufficient evidence to charge them with a crime, why didn't the Bush DOJ do it in the three months after the election. Something is not a crime just because you think so. And where is your outrage over the vote suppression in FL?

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 8:31 AM

@Tom - I am talking about a corrupt justice Department and you are pointing to the parking ticket ordinance. It is the job of a poll watcher to point out criminal activity - which he did. If people like me don't keep an eye open our whole country will start to look like Cook County. Your side has no problem nipping at our heel when we hold the White House. So why is it wrong for me to play the same game - by the same rules? You complain about 200 characters - try registering and get 10 times as many letters to pump up our president by destroying half the population.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 8:21 AM

But I should warn you that as long as the GOP (and its acolytes like you and rj) continue to blame others instead of looking at its own policies, it will go the way of the Whigs. Remember, we are not making as many angry old white men these days.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 8:18 AM

But you keep pounding that chicken Ray. I am sure that your alternate reality where Obama stole the election will make the next 4 years easier to stomach.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 8:17 AM

More importantly, no voter has ever complained about being intimidated by them. Instead it was a GOP poll watcher who complained. Hard to see how you can make out a voter intimidation claim when no voter claims they were intimidated.

Tom from River Foresrt  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 8:15 AM

Instead, the US Civil Rights Commission, that Bush had packed with fundies, elected to bring a civil suit against them.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 8:14 AM

Ray, 250 characters doesn't really permit me to teach you about the US legal system. However, there are two sorts of suits, a criminal suit and a civil suit. The Bush DOJ declined to charge them criminally.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 28th, 2012 7:43 AM

@Tom - Minister King Samir Shabazz and Jerry Jackson, were charged with voter intimidation. That is federal and yes a crime. Holder dropped all but a minor charge of trespass against Shabazz for which he got probation ( that means guilty I think). Now lets connect a couple dots - '08 thugs at Philadelphia poling places threaten white voters - '12 dozens of precincts where Romney got not one single vote. This stinks like Chicago Democrat politics - oh yes it IS Chicago Democrat politics. I learned the 'connect the dots' game as a child in my "Childrens Activities Magazine" and it still works out that at the end you see a picture. This picture STINKS!

rj  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 8:08 PM

Tom you have no idea how comforted I am that you recognize how disconnected I am from your warped, regressive world of socialism. The alternative universe you choose to live in is necessary to keep the lies alive. That is the real bad. History Tom.

Tom from River forest  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 6:35 PM

Jesus Ray, you really have to get better news sources. They were never criminally charged, a decision first made by the bush doj. Try google next time ray because you are reaching the rj level of reality disconnection. And that is real bad.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 6:28 PM

@PF The black panther issue is a matter of principal! Those two thugs were caught on video intimidating voters and they were let off - Why?? No reasonable explanation from Holder. You snipe about Republicans, voter intimidation, fox news etc etc etc - Not one real contribution just back stabbing - grow up your line has become boring!

rj  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 5:28 PM

CPI is a non-profit organization coordinating w/progressive advocacy groups favoring liberal policies & actively opposing right wing causes.Funding from G. Soros engaging in non stop accusations against Kochs. A front group for agenda journalism.

People First  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 4:02 PM

I'm willing to accept the findings of the Center for Public Integrity. That strange reference to a "jury of your peers" makes no sense. Are you willing to explain your thought process in dismissing a nonpartisan study by a respected organization?

People First  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 3:49 PM

"A tempest in a teapot" is how one prominent conservative described the charge of voter intimidation against a fringe group calling themselves the New Black Panther party. Ray Simpson is squawking about this like the trained Fox News parrot he is.

not all states the same  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 3:43 PM

There is a difference between a study and jury of your peers. Good grief PF, I hope you aren't this disagreeable in your own household or at least live alone.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 3:22 PM

@Tom - the 2 thugs failed to show up in court so a guilty judgement was issued - Holder then stepped in and reversed the judgement. Without those facts the video left little to the imagination.

rj  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 3:15 PM

PF Shouldn't you be concerned about all corruption? What about Arkansas, California, Massachusetts, Illinois. The most corrupt & bankrupt also have D controlled legislature that over ride the Governors' veto in most cases. Term limits, lobbyists also

People First  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 2:24 PM

Wanna see how all states are the same? Republican governors control the most corrupt US states. A 2012 study on intergrity in state government gave failing grades to Michigan, Maine, Wyoming, South Dakota, South Carolina, Georgia and Virginia.

rj  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 2:22 PM

PF- Vladimir Putin surely recognizes one when he sees one. Can you read? And what happened to Otto Kerner, Dan Walker & Rod Blagojevich. Selective memory.

People First  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 2:12 PM

See what I mean, Tom? You've got a Fox News parrot claiming President Obama is a communist? Easy to dismiss such lunacy as the ramblings of someone who is incapable of a reasoned thought process but this nonsense keeps getting posted here.

rj  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 2:07 PM

Even Putin couldn't believe O re-elected by illiterate society. Never thought Americans " so blind to what's happening to them. Do they not read history?" Said O is a communist & promoting the Manifesto w/o calling it so. Is that your cross, Tom.

not all states the same  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 2:02 PM

8 governors have ever gone to prison, 4 of them were from Illinois.

rj  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 1:55 PM

Tom - D controlled (Miami-Dade) districts decided to hold early voting anyway. D election officials selected site w/o parking, didn't staff enough personnel, didn't order enough ballots, applications & voting machines & blame R for lack of access.

People First  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 1:35 PM

Don't kid yourself about machine politics being the sole property of the Democratic party in Chicago and Cook County. It goes on in every state and big city. Big Jim Thompson, Jim Edgar and George Ryan had key roles in creating Illinois funding woes.

Obama Axelrod  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 12:32 PM

Obama is a Chicago Machine pol. The Machine is corrupt and has bankrupted IL. His consiglieri is the Machine's consiglieri. Obama is just doing to the country what he and his gang did to IL. His past is our national prologue: Bankruptcy.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 11:56 AM

Ray, so now you get to be the prosecutor, judge and jury? Don't you fundies always decry the loss of liberty at the hands of our president but now you are going to deny those guys a trial because of what you saw on Fox? Nice double standard there.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 11:54 AM

rj, it has been confirmed by members of the GOP. I have already given you the quote from the FL gop operative but in PN a state senator admitted that the PN id law would ensure Romney's victory there. Just cause he was wrong didn't mean he was lyin

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 11:52 AM

Thanks PF but that is the cross that I bear. I consider educating the benighted to be an important civic duty.

People First  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 11:09 AM

Good luck,Tom. Trying to have an intelligent conversation with rabid Fox News parrots like rj and Ray is an exercise in futility. Reading the contents of thier postings is just a rehash of the drivel they soaked up listening to O'Reilly and Hannity.

rj  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 10:19 AM

Tom-Confirmed by whom-a Pravda like press that looks the other way & covers up the truth, refuses to investigate anything unless it involves the opposition, that continually put our country at risk & are lapdogs to this despicable administration?

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 9:19 AM

@Tom - They were guilty as sin and yet AG Holder dropped the charges! WHY? You make all of these charges about Republicans, yet here in Illinois the world knows vote fraud is alive and well. We are the poster child for Democrats rigging the system.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 8:35 AM

rj, the only confirmed instances of voting fraud in this election were by republicans. Look into the VA registration fraud for example. Vote fraud is just a GOP boogeyman used to prevent minorities from voting and yet Obama won.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 8:33 AM

Ray, one black guy standing in front of a polling place is hardly equatable with pervasive voting rules in OH, FL, PN that were intentionally designed to prevent minorities from voting.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 27th, 2012 7:21 AM

@Tom - at least the Republicans have not resorted to baseball bat toting New Black Panthers at the polling place door. Talk about suppression! All of these charges of suppression have yet to be proved on any large scale.. If truth were to be known I would bet that everything evens out and no real gains will be discovered. There are cheaters on both sides and both parties know it. Who yells loudest at ID laws designed to prevent voter fraud? Why? Could it be that they need those multiple voting dead people?

rj  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 11:15 PM

Tom- Like early voting & voting often, fraudulent, rigged voting machines, illegal voters & foreign campaign contributors aren't designed to cancel out Republican votes to win at all cost by any means necessary. Surely you jest.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 9:33 PM

As always rj is wrong: "A new Florida law that contributed to long voter lines and caused some to abandon voting altogether was intentionally designed by Florida GOP staff and consultants to inhibit Democratic voters" http://politics.heraldtribune.

rj  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 3:05 PM

Despite the rhetoric the middle class is & will continue to be decimated according to plan. Check out on YouTube-Fear the Boom and Bust, Hayek vs. Keynes, rap anthem. I'm going with Frederich Von Hayek for boom.

Russ  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 1:49 PM

JBM, govt spending is out of control on both left and right. ALL of it needs to be cut dramatically. However, the current admin's policies are not going to do anything to really create economic growth to help those that need it most.

John Butch Murtagh from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 1:14 PM

Russ, I spend 40 years in business (corporate and small business) before retiring. I understand the challenges business face. I favor government support for business development, research, etc. But I also support the needs of the worker in terms of jobs, wages, and respect. The last election was a disgraceful attack on the people that sustain business. Romney's 47% remark made it clear to me that there is a major divide between the "haves" and the "have nots." That divide does us no good, and does not bode well for the future if we continue to disdain the principle that we are all equal. Somehow we must learn to share the bounty of the country whether we are 47or 1 percenters.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 1:07 PM

@JBM - eliminate it all - let the well run businesses prosper and the bad ones fail. The government has no record of spending money wisely or picking winners. Compare FEMA and Salvation Army. I get more bang for my buck by contributing to Salvation Army by about 8 to 1. It isn't important who is in charge, they all waste other peoples money. Example - we borrow money from China to give it to Egypt. I suggest we just give Egypt China's phone number and let them borrow - borrow - borrow.

Russ  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 12:06 PM

yes, more jobs will stimulate the economy. Jobs are not just made up, but come from businesses taking risks to fulfill a need and create markets. The policies of the left are stifling businesses from doing so.

John Butch Murtagh from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 11:46 AM

Ray Simpson ?" Your selective interpretation of Keynesian Economics is very one sided. You attack subsidies that punish job-holders and seekers, while ignoring completely the subsidies, grants, and largess given to business. Import quotas protect business from foreign competition while raising prices on consumers.- Eliminate Business Welfare? Farmers receive huge subsidies to "not" farm and protection from bad weather,. Eliminate Business Welfare? The Telecom, Mining, Construction (development), and Energy industries all receive huge government financial support - Eliminate Business Welfare? No more bank or corporate bailouts, no more federal business loans, etc. (Eliminate Business Welfare? If you want to take a swing at Keynesian Economics, you have to consider everything in the economy ?" not just your personal and petty view!

rj  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 10:32 AM

Lies Tom-voter ID's only restrict those who don't have the legal privilege to vote- you couldn't win one vote if the real truth were told w/o lies, fraud, corruption, the ignorant & illegal votes. Chaos & destructive policies, not leadership.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 9:50 AM

and yet more derp from rj. It was the GOP that was trying to corrupt the system with their voting restrictions in all the battleground states and yet Obama still wins. Shows you how much the country values his leadership.

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 9:48 AM

No Ray, Durbin is not vulnerable. In fact, Mark Kirk might want to get the resume together because he will be a one termer in 2016.

rj  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 9:29 AM

Tom-Shows how coerced the system purposely is. Ignorant & wicked have joined forces to win this election. What camp are you in? Also shows what you socialists have already implemented is not working or is working depending on what camp you're in.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 9:18 AM

@Tom 2010 was not your best election and we have 2014 on the horizon. Durbin is up for election - could he be vulnerable? If there is not a turn around - what will you be voting for?

Tom from River Forest  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 9:12 AM

rj, Before you make your broad claims on America, you might try to win an election. You might also note that Jesusland in the US, where you belong, is a net recipient of tax dollars while the blue states, like Illinois are net payers.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 7:36 AM

Can Mr. Broderick really believe this crap? It seems that more than half of the voting population agree with him - what an indictment of our education system!

rj  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 1:47 AM

5/now live in the brave new world of Utopia.

rj  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 1:45 AM

4/Alaska-Puerto Rico may be up for grabs. The great race to fiscal solvency experiment-no cheating now-no underground tunneling yourselves back in here. You would be an illegal & there are no easy entitlements. But why would you when you live

rj  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 1:42 AM

3/As a result you will have to tax yourselves further beyond infinity & keep in mind Texas will have seceded & will not save you. You will need to take O & M with you & IF you can retire them at some point you can return them to Hawaii- we have

rj  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 1:39 AM

2/ Your Hollywood sign-our Statue of Liberty. You get Vegas, we have Wall St. We get our legal immigrants-you get your favored illegals & all public unions. We keep DC & restore the Const-you can implement the Manifesto to create your Ameritopia.

rj  

Posted: November 26th, 2012 1:36 AM

Tom-You know full well O & your socialist org are trying to collapse the system. Let's further this experiment called America. Split her down the damn middle-socialists take the center to the Left coast. Patriots take the center to the East coast...

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 24th, 2012 11:03 AM

Oops - Sorry "Greater Oak Park Democratic Socialists of America" - an inadvertent deletion.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park  

Posted: November 24th, 2012 9:43 AM

Mr. Broderick seems to be advocating getting out of a hole by digging the hole deeper. His Keynesian Economics approach has been tried numerous times before and has always been a long term failure. Any short term successes quickly devour themselves. Stimulus should be like priming an old water pump to lubricate the parts and seal the gaskets and then let the pump work to full capacity. Our current administration believes that the solution is to hook a fire hose to the pump and then brag about how much water is flowing. Jobs created by government spending do not produce a tangible product but rather pay people just to get money into their pockets. Repair the economy by reducing taxes, eliminate all foolish regulations and get government out of the way. The free market model has always worked when the politicians kept their sticky fingers out of the management. Big government, as advocated by Mr. Broderick, will only make the situation worse. We will find out soon since President Obama, seems to agree with the Greater Oak Park Socialists of America's game plan. Heaven help us!

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