Attempted child abduction reported on Lake Street

OPRF sends warning emails, robocalls

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Oak Park and River Forest High School issued a warning by email and robocall Wednesday afternoon that a female student had been approached on Lake Street, Wednesday morning, by a man who tried to coax her into his vehicle.

According to the OPRF press release, a female student, around 9:30 a.m., was followed and then approached by an adult male in a vehicle on Lake Street near the main post office. He allegedly tried several times to coax her into the vehicle before driving off eastbound on Lake Street, the press release said.

The vehicle described was a small, older-model, rusty blue pickup truck with a blue cover on the back and a green stripe on the side. The man was described by the high school as Hispanic, thin, around 45 years old, wearing a white shirt.

Spokeswoman Karin Sullivan said the high school was "increasing security around our building."

Parents were warned to remind students of safety precautions when walking around Oak Park and River Forest.

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Mike from Oak Park  

Posted: October 13th, 2013 11:03 AM

Too bad the concealed carry laws aren't in effect. Then that girl could have shot that evil man.

OP Transplant  

Posted: October 9th, 2013 12:49 PM

Magpie - As described above, there was no threat of violence in the Lake Street incident. It's pretty obvious that it's not the same guy. I'm not sure what your point is.

Magpie-eye  

Posted: October 9th, 2013 12:22 PM

@OPTransplant - When not suffused with bitterness, you often present an interesting point of view. In that light, I would be interested to hear your interpretation of the "courting ritual" described in today's OPPatch when a would-be Lothario was arrested for threatening to beat a 16 y.o. girl for not providing her telephone number in the presence of her father. Her. Father. Is this some wooing ritual that escapes the understanding of the 'pearl clutchers'? I's "too afraid" to speculate.

OP Transplant  

Posted: October 9th, 2013 10:06 AM

Let me try to translate this for the haughty schoolmarms of Oak Park, and their wives. If a guy with a Spanish accent yells, "You wanna ride, mamacita?" to a girl on the sidewalk of a busy street in broad daylight, he is not attempting a child abduction. I make no apologies for his behavior; this guy is not a national spokesman for La Raza, but he's also not a criminal. Sometimes, you people take being white to a whole new level!

Neighbor from Oak Park  

Posted: October 8th, 2013 4:23 PM

Ok, so silly Violet plays the genital card and angry Transplant plays the race card...again. Be real. Any woman, regardless of her age, should feel some healthy fear when a man yells at her from a car and asks her to get in. Who cares what color the man may be! Teen age girls are less experienced and thus more vulnerable in dealing with men who are predators. Sorry, Violet.-you're expressing your frustration on the wrong issue, and I'm not alluding to inappropriate posts sent earlier to you.

Uncommon Sense  

Posted: October 8th, 2013 2:57 PM

Well unless she showed the guy her ID, how is he supposed to know she is underage? I'm not saying it is right, but I am also a realist and know that many high school girls these days go to school dressed like they are 25 yrs old going to a night club. It is creepy, but also a bit of a stretch say it was an abduction attempt as well no matter the legal definition.

Speedway from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: October 8th, 2013 2:06 PM

Some of this is really off-putting. Seems like it makes some guys feel self-righteous to make the victim responsible for the crime. It is one thing to whistle at a pretty girl and quite another to be old enough to be a father and start following a High School student and asking her to get in his car. You guys really don't see that? What is wrong with you. To all girls out there, watch out. The male attitude to what is appropriate behavior toward a young girl is lower than low.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: October 8th, 2013 1:56 PM

Good Lord. Some of the comments here rank with Forest Park posts in terms of flat out ignorance. The guy police are looking for didn't just whistle at the girl. He tried repeatedly to talk her over to his car. And he wasn't some high school kid. He was 45 years old. What's so difficult to discern here? THis isn't about not appreciating pretty girls. It's about respecting boundaries, particularly if she's underaged and you're not.

Oak Park Dad from Oak Park  

Posted: October 8th, 2013 1:49 PM

I'm more concerned at how overly-pampered, hyper-sensitive a Nanny State we live in where people feel that they have an absolute right not to be offended. And other people, the Nannies of the Nanny State, feel they have a right to determine what is and is not offensive. The more concerning aspect here is that OP is pressing charges against a man that doesn't meet their politically-correct standards of behavior while the reality is that this man is the more of a victim than this girl ever was.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: October 8th, 2013 1:47 PM

In 1965-66, OPRF was ranked in the Top FIVE, just above New Trier, believe it or not.

Chuck Izzo from Oak Park  

Posted: October 8th, 2013 1:20 PM

Has anyone ever seen how some of the female students at OPRFHS dress? (pickup) Beach attire really is not appropriate for the classroom. The parents of these young ladies should act like adults and have their offspring dress properly. Back in the day (1967) males were suspended for not wearing a belt and females for having skirts above their knees. By the way at that time OPRFHS was ranked a top 10 high school in the USA. No way we will ever be rated that high in the future.

OP Transplant  

Posted: October 8th, 2013 12:01 PM

Many Oak Parkers have dainty, girlish sensibilities, rendering them terrified of dark-skinned strangers from the city. And the women are even worse!

joe from south oak park  

Posted: October 8th, 2013 11:51 AM

what i described below is a far cry from the story above where someone followed and enticed a minor to get in a car but they both would carry the same penalty.

joe from south oak park  

Posted: October 8th, 2013 11:49 AM

with all this hubbub I looked up the statute. Illinois is kind of silly with this stuff. Say we are having a storm, I'm driving home, the neighbor's kid is caught out in the rain, flags me down and asks for a ride home. If i agree, I just committed child abduction because even if a child enters your custody of their own free will it is still considered abduction. There are likely some good reasons for that but would it not make more sense to add a clause about intent?

OP Transplant  

Posted: October 8th, 2013 11:34 AM

VA-Definitely a white guy crime. Where I grew up, if it had been illegal to holler at girls from your car, every guy I knew would have done time. Unless the guy had reason to believe she was a minor, it's hard to find the criminal intent here. This is likely a case of different cultural norms creating a misunderstanding.

Violet Aura  

Posted: October 8th, 2013 11:22 AM

This is akin to that uber stoopid "zero-tolerance" crap in public schools, which makes REAL crimes blend in with the silly season ones. Example: one girl has PMS cramps and the other girl gives her a Tylenol and gets suspended for possession and distribution of drugs on school property. Overblown stuff like this makes the real cases almost seem less serious and THAT'S a crime!

Violet Probably Wishes...  

Posted: October 7th, 2013 11:42 PM

She had been picked up because at least she finally would have had some male attention. The only mail she gets has a stamp on it.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: October 7th, 2013 9:31 PM

Oh, Violet, really? You're dragging out the genital trump card? You are genuinely pathetic. I guess it's just a whole lot easier for you intellectually than making a strong argument. We're talking about the safety of young girls/women here, but, by all means, feel free to refer to your vagina as the center of your thesis. Pah-thet-ic....

Violet Aura  

Posted: October 7th, 2013 8:55 PM

@Bill: Thank you for schooling me! Having a vagina obviously still doesn't qualify me as much as your Alan Alda-esque aspirations so I defer to your superior male feminist sensibilities :/ In any case, if I had filed a police reports every time a man hit on me in a car when I was a teenager, there would be a slew of men arrested.;)

Woman  

Posted: October 5th, 2013 5:27 PM

I am going to pipe up on behalf of those of us who are uncomfortable with men leering and jeering, don't want it and don't invite it. It sounds like this student did not want to be followed and was concerned enough to call the police. Good for her.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: October 5th, 2013 3:46 PM

"I had men beeping their horns and me and trying to 'get with me.' It's not uncommon, dear." What does it being "not uncommon" have to do with anything? Speeding and DU are "not uncommon" and they're also both illegal. Adults don't get to hit on minors. It's a crime. Period. Write a letter to your state legislators if that bothers you so much and you think the law should be changed.

a mom  

Posted: October 5th, 2013 2:38 PM

sorry, Maggy

a mom  

Posted: October 5th, 2013 2:37 PM

Maggie, It was a late arrival Wednesday where OPRF begins at 9:45.

Cm from Oak Park  

Posted: October 5th, 2013 11:29 AM

Well hopefully those of you who think this wasn 't an attempted child abduction don 't have children. ( or if you do you better hope they're never in this situation) She is a child until she turns 18. He tried to lure her, and that's an attempt to abduct her. Some people have no compassion for childdren and should just be quiet.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: October 4th, 2013 8:37 AM

From the Illinois "Child abduction" statute: ....the following terms have the following meanings: (1) "Child" means a person who, at the time the alleged violation occurred, was under the age of 18 or severely or profoundly intellectually disabled. (2) "Detains" means taking or retaining physical custody of a child, WHETHER OR NOT the child resists or objects. (2.2) "Luring" means any knowing act to solicit, entice, tempt, or attempt to attract the minor.

maggy  

Posted: October 4th, 2013 7:35 AM

I thought school started at 8am, why was she not in school?

Speedway from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: October 4th, 2013 4:34 AM

Some of you obviously disagree but having a much older man following and luring a high school student is wrong. Kids, girls especially, are taught not to go into a stranger's car. The danger is obvious and why it is illegal. Just to say it's ok for a high schooler to decide is not good enough.

Q from Oak Park  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 11:44 PM

Violet Aura is actually correct because it was not an attempted child abduction but the one who made the head line new it would grab attention. 'Stranger Tries Luring Female Teenager Into His Car"

Violet Sucks  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 11:21 PM

Wow, Violet. For as much of a liberal hack as you are, you sure lack compassion.

Violet Aura  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 7:06 PM

Hey folks, just because it's an IL statute doesn't make it genius. I don't care if he is a middle-aged perv, she is NOT a child and can decide for herself whether or not to go with the guy. To call it an abduction is a bit over-the-top and takes away from real instances where females are forcibly pulled towards a car or little girls are enticed with candy.

Violet Aura  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 7:04 PM

@Waste of Life: "Teets?" What did you teach her--tiddly winks? I know it wasn't anything academic. LMAO.

Neighbor from Oak Park  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 6:54 PM

Why were these last 2 comments allowed to be posted?

The Waste of Life Below Me  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 6:35 PM

I taught that young lady and she is neither pretentious nor overprotected, you troll. Go back to sucking your mother's teets.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 11:40 AM

If a 45-year old man tries "several times to coax" a minor into his vehicle, it's a crime. It's illegal for adults to entice children in any manner. If the person doing the coaxing, on the other hand, is a minor himself, it's probably not illegal, so long as there was no type of coercion involved. In any event, the best approach? Just leave kids and strangers alone, whatever your age.

OP Transplant  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 11:23 AM

Answer - Fair enough; I didn't know that was the statute. Now I'm thinking I may have been guilty of that once or twice in high school.

L Luthor  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 11:19 AM

That all you got, Brad? You must be distracted by the garbage in your park.

Answer  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 11:02 AM

IL crime statutes label even attempting to get a minor to go with an adult is an actual child abduction. The teen must be under 18 in this case so it is technically a child abduction. I have no problem with the WJ labeling it an attempt abduction as in reality that is what it really is.

OP Transplant  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 10:28 AM

Violet-I've thought the same thing when reading these types of reports. Is this really an attempted abduction, or just a creepy come-on from some loser. It's not good either way, but there's not necessarily criminal intent.

Violet Aura  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 10:06 AM

Question about the use of the word "abduction." If a man simply asks a girl to get in the car, is it really an abduction? She is a teenager and hardly a child. I think many females can relate to having men try and get them to hang with them. If he displayed a gun or otherwise threatened her, I could see labeling it that way but I wonder if the terminology is accurate.

O from FP from Forest Park  

Posted: October 3rd, 2013 7:38 AM

Way to add to the conversation guys. I bet putting the notification in the paper helps too.

Q from Oak Park  

Posted: October 2nd, 2013 6:39 PM

The Brad they need you to proof read at the paper.

The Brad from OP  

Posted: October 2nd, 2013 4:11 PM

Good comma use in that statement, Q. After reading it three times, I think I may understand what you are attempting to say.

Q from Oak Park  

Posted: October 2nd, 2013 3:48 PM

If Oak Park Police Department, isn't sending out an alert to other Police Departments and Schools when this happens they should be.

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