Now you see concealed-carry, now you don't: -- D. Harmon's proposal

No-gun sign out,, guns-ok sign in

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By Jim Bowman


A new twist on Sen. Harmon's proposed twisting of concealed-carry to insert in the law the presumption of no-guns-allowed, as envisioned by a guns-fearing woman:

Nicole said she sees signs indicating gun-free zones are currently posted at her child's pre-school, and finds them to be a frightening reminder of the tragic mass-shooting of young children in Newtown, Conn. in 2012.


She told FOX 32 news that Senate Bill 2669 would render gun-free zone signs redundant and unnecessary at places like her child's school. She also said local businesses would benefit from posting positive signs as opposed to negative ones.


The positive sign would say guns allowed, presumption being not allowed. Progressive Dem sleight of hand, right?

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S Schultz from Oak Park  

Posted: February 27th, 2015 9:41 PM

I know nothing,...nothing! Just Zay'N, ya know?

billdooganislesgolden from oak park  

Posted: February 20th, 2014 2:16 PM

Bill Doogan (aka Les), whenever you pop up in the WJ comments with your nonsensical, one-trick pony rant that adds nothing to the dialogue, I promise to find you and call you out. Please admit you're really Les, and step away from the computer. You have nothing of value to say. Stop it.


Posted: February 18th, 2014 8:32 AM

A bunch of "no guns" signs popped up on Oak Park ave. Store owners should understand that it doesn't make people feels safe. It implies that something bad has happened there. I really don't think you have much to fear from licensed carriers.

Bill Doogan  

Posted: February 17th, 2014 9:47 PM

EVERY violation of Brandon Phelps HB183 concealed carry bill is a Class B misdemeanor for 1st offense, (6 months jail) 2nd offense Class A misdemeanor (1 yr. jail) The criminal penalties, including the new "crime" of Duty to Inform, were provided by NRA lobbyist Todd Vandermyde. That's the way he and Phelps wrote the bill. Who benefits? After flushing Otis McDonald down the toilet w/DTI, NRA will be looking for new black plaintiffs from Chicago to make money from lawsuits. Sellouts.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: February 17th, 2014 6:57 AM

@ Dominick - add liberal do-gooder to your list.

Dominick Ahrens  

Posted: February 17th, 2014 6:41 AM

New2OP - While I wish I could use this as another example of the specialness - like a short bus - that is Illannoys, consider the history of CCW around the Country. Didn't matter that WA had it without incident, or GA, or FL... every state had to "prove it for themselves", even though the results have been the same again and again - permit holders aren't the ones causing crimes. So much for the concept of the "scientific method" applying anywhere near a politician.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: February 16th, 2014 8:55 AM

@ New - In our year long "Gun Ordinance" meetings Ken Trainor proclaimed that all 49 other states are "WRONG" and he implied that the murder capitol of the world was the only reasonable and even handed place left to hide.

New2OP from Oak Park  

Posted: February 16th, 2014 7:48 AM

If only Illinois were not the first state to go through this. Then we could learn from the experiences of other states.

Ray Simpson from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: February 16th, 2014 7:46 AM

Strange - - - A kid can get expelled for pointing a "GUN" like finger at another like armed child. The school gets a gold star on their chart for posting what look like military firearms recognition silhouettes of handguns at every entrance. We are losing all sense of reality and passing hand wringing fear on to our children.Inform and educate the kids about gun safety in the real world, don't terrorize them.

Count Zer0 from DuPage  

Posted: February 16th, 2014 6:06 AM

Criminals don't obey signs, and they don't obey laws, could it possibly be less likely that they don't obey signs that aren't there? The Newton shooting wasn't committed by a sign-reading, law-abiding citizen. I think this is probably the closest admission by a hoplophobe that gun signs really don't work.

Dominick Ahrens  

Posted: February 15th, 2014 11:52 PM

The lady should find "Gun Free Zone" signs frightening. Most innocents are killed in areas that bear them, believing they are safe... until they hear the shots. Eventually we will either all evolve as a species to the point where we no longer use violence... or the people who have believed that signs will stop a a dedicated criminal will suddenly realize they they have been lied to this whole time. Sadly I think both are about as unlikely.

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